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Elementary OS 5.1 Hera

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Re: Elementary OS 5.1 Hera

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Post by AnIdiotOnTheNet »

jonny383 wrote: post #23

Serious question time. What benefit will I get from running something like Elementary over Ubuntu? Forgive my ignorance, but honestly the whole OS looks like it's just a fork of Ubuntu with a couple of swapped in applications, and a GTK3 theme on top of GNOME trying to make it look like a ten year old version of macOS. I hate to be so negative, but the "new greeter" they are showing looks like something from Windows…

You could ask the same about pretty much ever Linux distro out there, each of which feels entitled to declare itself an "OS".

Re: Elementary OS 5.1 Hera

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Post by AnIdiotOnTheNet »

joshklein wrote: post #69
joshklein wrote: post #63

Is global menu possible on Elementary yet? Searches only turn up old links for the now-dead unity style, but nothing based on libdbusmenu. Still seems to me that Plasma with libdbusmenu-qt5 is the closest interface paradigm to MacOS for people trying to swap (not that there aren’t other problems), but glib and gtk versions exist so someone out there must be working on it?

Replying to myself with more info: This is proving exceptionally hard to search the web for, so apologies if this is out of date, but it seems the answer was “no, and it never will be, so stop asking” as of 2018: https://twitter.com/danielfore/status/991836014070022144 Was this from before Elementary was positioning as the MacOS replacement? I can’t be the only one who thinks the global menu is one of the MacOS inter…

It is amazing how much GUIs have regressed in the past 2 decades. Even on Linux KDE used to provide the option for global menus.

Re: Elementary OS 5.1 Hera

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Post by AnIdiotOnTheNet »

heinrichhartman wrote: post #73

Installed Elementary on my Dad's Laptop last week. He is 75 now, and got immediately productive with it, using Firefox for Email and Banking. His Windows machines ALWAYS clogged up with Spy and Malware after a few months. The last time, the suspend function broke and shut-down the PC immediately, instead of suspending it. Reboot took 2minutes+ for _some_ reason. Contrast this to the Mac Laptop of my mother which is f…

Same old story: user who only needs a web browser is well served by installing .

Re: Elementary OS 5.1 Hera

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Post by snazz »

dylan604 wrote: post #108
1Y3 wrote: post #100

I love the idea of having a Linux distro that emulates macOS, but I see no point in copying only the vague look, when it still differs in basic functionality, like using different keyboard shortcuts. I don’t understand why (based on semi-thorough googling in the past) it is not possible to change all shortcuts to be like macOS (cmd-c instead of ctrl-c etc.)

My first guess would be that the majority of keyboards that exist in the world do not have a CMD key.

The command/⌘ key is just the logo/super/Windows key in a different spot.

Re: Elementary OS 5.1 Hera

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Post by AnIdiotOnTheNet »

jstewartmobile wrote: post #13

These "blah-OS" posts are so disappointing. You click--hoping for some new take on what an operating system should be--only to discover yet another half-assed linux distro.

I agree with you. Every distro feels entitled to call itself an "OS" these days and it is annoying.

Re: Elementary OS 5.1 Hera

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Post by everybodyknows »

diffeomorphism wrote: post #107
1Y3 wrote: post #100

I love the idea of having a Linux distro that emulates macOS, but I see no point in copying only the vague look, when it still differs in basic functionality, like using different keyboard shortcuts. I don’t understand why (based on semi-thorough googling in the past) it is not possible to change all shortcuts to be like macOS (cmd-c instead of ctrl-c etc.)

Linux has 3 keybinding schemes among which you can choose: emacs, vim and cua (what IBM introduced some years later, ctrl+c etc.). I don't see why introducing a fourth one would help? The main reason you can't simply flick a global switch between those three but have to do it per app seems to be the license of GNU readline.

Care to recommend a virtual terminal client app that supports Emacs keybindings well? Preferably available from Ubuntu 'apt'.

Re: Elementary OS 5.1 Hera

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Post by iad »

alexis_fr wrote: post #27
mushufasa wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

pop! shares dna with elementary (same people worked on both) and probably is closer to that definition. E.g. backed by a company with actual customer support. Different aesthetics though.

It’s worth developing: Pop! is the fork of Elementary by System76, which is known for high-quality open-source laptops/desktops. I have never tried either so I can’t assess the quality. From the screenshots I have seen, it remains Linux, so not as smooth as macOS.

When you say fork are you talking about the desktop environments or the whole distros?

Pop's desktop environment looks like a barely customized Gnome3 session to me. I'm not sure I would even call it a fork. Looks more like just a theme.

Pantheon (Elementary) is more of a fork of Gnome3, reusing some low level parts but presenting a much different experience to the user.

Re: Elementary OS 5.1 Hera

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Post by pkilgore »

mangix wrote: post #3

I love elementaryOS. Except for the kernel. That thing receives no updates.

This is not true.

I'm running a 5.x kernal with latest Ubuntu hwe on Juno right now.

Kernal updates are slower, sure, but that is a feature for a lot of us.

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