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We thought about this pattern for a while and ultimately decided we didn't want app compute to directly provision supporting infrastructure. You end up in this weird place where your compute nodes can, at any time, assume super powerful roles that can change nacls, security groups, completely destroy database clusters or what have you. It feels like running your app as root and database admin, but more . I guess if y…
I think these kind of tools are more about provisioning a "normal" cluster from an "admin" cluster. That way the power flows downhill, as it were.
In AWS you end up with a manually built/managed root cluster and if you've automated deploying / upgrading (which you probably should) that then you might as well just use those pipelines and code for all your other clusters too instead of having 1 special thing.
If the infrastructure gets complex there will start to be dependencies between stuff, there is definitely a tipping point where you need a real iac pipeline (tf/cf) instead in any case.
I think captn3mo proposed one of the more reasonable use cases which is provisioning stuff like queues and dbs for test envs or ci, we ended up stubbing out aws for ci and using the same pipeline code we use to deploy to prod instead for "full fat" testing but I can see where it might make sense to use kube manifests. Probably some creative uses for "deployment per customer" SaaSs too.