Kubernetes Config Connector: Provision GCP Infrastructure Using Kubernetes

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Post by migueloller » Thu, Dec 05, 2019, 3:55 PM UTC

Kubernetes Config Connector: Provision GCP Infrastructure Using Kubernetes
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Re: Kubernetes Config Connector: Provision GCP Infrastructure Using Kubernetes

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Post by ec109685 » Thu, Dec 05, 2019, 5:14 PM UTC

AWS started building something similar but momentum seems to have stopped once the developer left: https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/opensource/aws-service-operator...

It is too bad because declarative specifications and control loops to have state converge to what it should be is a nice pattern.

Keeping up with all of AWS’s surface area though is hard if their heart isn’t in it.

Re: Kubernetes Config Connector: Provision GCP Infrastructure Using Kubernetes

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Post by ec109685 » Thu, Dec 05, 2019, 5:16 PM UTC

Why doesn’t GCP use AWS’s feature announcement style and have a little blog written that walks the developer through how to use it?

So much better to get an immediate feel for a service.

Re: Kubernetes Config Connector: Provision GCP Infrastructure Using Kubernetes

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Post by jbigelow76 » Thu, Dec 05, 2019, 5:30 PM UTC

Spin up a k8s cluster to manage your other resources that will be used by your... other k8s clusters. Is kubernetes just one big snake eating its own tail now?

Re: Kubernetes Config Connector: Provision GCP Infrastructure Using Kubernetes

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Post by spew » Thu, Dec 05, 2019, 5:40 PM UTC

ec109685 wrote: post #3

Why doesn’t GCP use AWS’s feature announcement style and have a little blog written that walks the developer through how to use it? So much better to get an immediate feel for a service.

The getting started guide may be what you are looking for: https://cloud.google.com/config-connector/docs/how-to/gettin...

Re: Kubernetes Config Connector: Provision GCP Infrastructure Using Kubernetes

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Post by tyingq » Thu, Dec 05, 2019, 5:51 PM UTC

jbigelow76 wrote: post #4

Spin up a k8s cluster to manage your other resources that will be used by your... other k8s clusters. Is kubernetes just one big snake eating its own tail now?

The movie "Inception" popped into my head after seeing the headline. Managing k8s version upgrades across both sides is probably fun.

Re: Kubernetes Config Connector: Provision GCP Infrastructure Using Kubernetes

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Post by jvolkman » Thu, Dec 05, 2019, 5:52 PM UTC

ec109685 wrote: post #3

Why doesn’t GCP use AWS’s feature announcement style and have a little blog written that walks the developer through how to use it? So much better to get an immediate feel for a service.

There may have been one, but this isn't new. Here's a video covering it at GCP Next in April: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_hiFuRDJSE

Re: Kubernetes Config Connector: Provision GCP Infrastructure Using Kubernetes

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Post by tracker1 » Thu, Dec 05, 2019, 5:56 PM UTC

Definitely cool... although AWS is really entrenched and Azure's getting there too for a lot of orgs. Especially historically MS oriented shops and those with some apps tethered to windows where others can be containerized.

Re: Kubernetes Config Connector: Provision GCP Infrastructure Using Kubernetes

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Post by zxcmx » Thu, Dec 05, 2019, 5:57 PM UTC

ec109685 wrote: post #2

AWS started building something similar but momentum seems to have stopped once the developer left: https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/opensource/aws-service-operator... It is too bad because declarative specifications and control loops to have state converge to what it should be is a nice pattern. Keeping up with all of AWS’s surface area though is hard if their heart isn’t in it.

We thought about this pattern for a while and ultimately decided we didn't want app compute to directly provision supporting infrastructure.

You end up in this weird place where your compute nodes can, at any time, assume super powerful roles that can change nacls, security groups, completely destroy database clusters or what have you.

It feels like running your app as root and database admin, but more. I guess if you completely trust your kube control plane?

Like everything I'm sure it has a use somewhere.

Re: Kubernetes Config Connector: Provision GCP Infrastructure Using Kubernetes

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Post by captn3m0 » Thu, Dec 05, 2019, 6:18 PM UTC

zxcmx wrote: post #9

ec109685 wrote: post #2

AWS started building something similar but momentum seems to have stopped once the developer left: https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/opensource/aws-service-operator... It is too bad because declarative specifications and control loops to have state converge to what it should be is a nice pattern. Keeping up with all of AWS’s surface area though is hard if their heart isn’t in it.

We thought about this pattern for a while and ultimately decided we didn't want app compute to directly provision supporting infrastructure. You end up in this weird place where your compute nodes can, at any time, assume super powerful roles that can change nacls, security groups, completely destroy database clusters or what have you. It feels like running your app as root and database admin, but more . I guess if y…

We're trying it out in a dev-cluster/dev-account setup to let teams provision their own buckets/SQS and some supporting infrastructure easily without AWS access.