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Sundar will be the CEO of both Google and Alphabet

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Re: Sundar will be the CEO of both Google and Alphabet

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he just released stadia, the greatest gaming console of all time

It is way too early to measure the success or failure of Stadia.

The launch at least is a very clear failure. The product is hopelessly broken. By far my worst experience to date with a google product. They really should give everyone a full refund as a gesture of goodwill.

Re: Sundar will be the CEO of both Google and Alphabet

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From the outside, it feels much more like the company is hitting a midlife crisis (feeling unsettled, not as agile as they used to be) than a young adult.

Company lifespans these days are a lot shorter than human lifespans. 25-40 years seems typical, making a company-year 2-3x a human year. By that yardstick, Google was in its young adolescence when it IPO'd (seems reasonable), was an idealistic young adult when I joined in 2009 (also reasonable), is now hitting a midlife crisis, and will die sometime around 2040.

Yep I'm down with your timeline. I joined in 2012 and it felt like a person in their late 20s or 30s in an energetic but responsible part of their career, just settling down to have kids... But before all the buying of sailboats and sports cars and treatments for baldness...

Re: Sundar will be the CEO of both Google and Alphabet

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I don’t get it either. Google’s reputation has been lousy, there’s something weird going on among employees and the company isn’t clearly advancing in any particular area. Sundar strikes me as Google’s Ballmer. Satya, on the other hand, has been outstanding. Microsoft has transformed and looks like a company that will be dominant for at least another 20 years.

Google would be lucky if sundar was ballmer. Ballmer doesnt get enough credit for pivoting msft into enterprise...

He didn’t pivot to enterprise as much as totally forfeiting the consumer space.

Re: Sundar will be the CEO of both Google and Alphabet

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Can someone please explain why it is well deserved? For example, when I was at MSFT it was very clear why Satya deserved to be the next CEO - for leading and growing the cloud business from irrelevance to a major pillar of MSFT. What about Sundar? Is this all because he led Chrome?

He's been leading Google now as CEO for multiple years. As I said in my original comment, Larry and Sergey have devoted the majority of their time to Other Bets for a while. Sundar's promotion here is really just recognizing the role he's effectively had for some time at this point.

wtf are Other Bets?

Re: Sundar will be the CEO of both Google and Alphabet

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I dont think this is pedantic and my point is exactly as you describe! There is no such thing as "unbiased" and people who are in search of that are living in a dream world.

but surely people mean something when they say "unbiased", right? (I'll take a stab at it: something like "conveyed without the intention to deceive me, especially politically/financially/etc...") I get your point, and it's an important one -- but ime conversations are a lot more productive when they're about the ideas, not the words. :)

> something like "conveyed without the intention to deceive me, especially politically/financially/etc...")

That isn't even close to the definition of "unbiased" that I use. To me, something is "unbiased" if it based on facts without being interpreted in accordance with some preexisting belief or worldview.

Re: Sundar will be the CEO of both Google and Alphabet

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post #222

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I don’t get it either. Google’s reputation has been lousy, there’s something weird going on among employees and the company isn’t clearly advancing in any particular area. Sundar strikes me as Google’s Ballmer. Satya, on the other hand, has been outstanding. Microsoft has transformed and looks like a company that will be dominant for at least another 20 years.

Google would be lucky if sundar was ballmer. Ballmer doesnt get enough credit for pivoting msft into enterprise...

Ballmer was good at business and running the day-to-day housekeeping. But his legacy will always be that of Windows 8, of Surface RT, of dismissing the iPhone; frankly he didn't understand enterprise customers either. He was never the visionary leader.
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