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Re: Sundar will be the CEO of both Google and Alphabet

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Post by mirekrusin »

ixtli wrote: post #91
pknopf wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The difference is between personal bias and relevant search results. He meant to say "personal bias."

I would have accepted this, yeah. The difference is important because there is a relevancy calculation that determines what's on top of news.google.com at any given time and that encodes types of bias. Personally, in fact, I believe they're mostly good sorts of biases in that they wont generally show you InfoWars or something like that, for example. But we need to be honest when we talk about this stuff.

I think "I'm feeling lucky" button on the home page is unbiased.

Re: Sundar will be the CEO of both Google and Alphabet

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Post by bogwog »

gtirloni wrote: post #73
raldi wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nah, anyone used to reading Google press releases knows that a subject line of, "An Update on X" always means X is being shut down, and thus, "A letter from Larry and Sergey" could mean nothing else except they're stepping down.

This meme has to die. It's time.

Maybe it'll get acquired by Google soon?

Re: Sundar will be the CEO of both Google and Alphabet

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Post by nostrademons »

zarkov99 wrote: post #80
shaneprrlt wrote: post #60

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I think that's a cynical view of the situation. These guys have grown a college startup into one of the world's most valuable companies. They're rich beyond imagination. More importantly, they're getting close to being 50. Would you want a day job if you could retire 15 years earlier than most, especially considering Google has served as a vehicle to explore a ton of other projects they've been interested in (since m…

I think they will regret it. Google was once a real special company. Their IPO filling, their stance on China, those were principled, courageous stands that came straight from Larry and Sergey. To see their beautiful baby turn into another mega-corp, as hypocritical as any, colonized by activists and careerists bent on distorting the social fabric to advance ideologies and profits? Contemplating that turn of events w…

I think what they learned in the intervening 15 years is that there are very strong structural forces pushing corporations towards the "traditional company" form that everybody hates, and that even as CEO, even as controlling shareholders, they were powerless to stop them.

At least, that's what I learned, having worked at Google during the period where "Don't be evil" was still taken seriously, engineers could still propose & develop their own projects, the public still liked them, and Larry was just beginning to take the reins.

Re: Sundar will be the CEO of both Google and Alphabet

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Post by big_chungus »

ericol wrote: post #68
lacker wrote: post #45

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The walkout referred to was over a year ago, so I wouldn't call that discontent "emerging". If anything, that demonstrates that discontent is diminishing, because there hasn't been another similar walkout.

I think they made every effort possible to cut this at the root, and even retaliate. the fact that 4 out of 7 of the organizers of the walkout left the company[1], some with more than 10 years working for Google, is rather telling. I don't think your comment holds water. [1] https://www.wired.com/story/most-google-walkout-organizers-l...

I don't get the constant critiques of this. They fired employees who encouraged others to leave their jobs. That's not really "retaliation", is it? Were a competitor to do that, Google would have a case for tortious interference. Why is it any different when it's "organizing"? It's not like this was a unionization attempt, which might have some legal protection.

Re: Sundar will be the CEO of both Google and Alphabet

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Post by dfcagency »

gtirloni wrote: post #73
raldi wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nah, anyone used to reading Google press releases knows that a subject line of, "An Update on X" always means X is being shut down, and thus, "A letter from Larry and Sergey" could mean nothing else except they're stepping down.

This meme has to die. It's time.

An Update On This Meme It's Time

Re: Sundar will be the CEO of both Google and Alphabet

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Post by p1esk »

Someone1234 wrote: post #75
lacker wrote: post #45

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The walkout referred to was over a year ago, so I wouldn't call that discontent "emerging". If anything, that demonstrates that discontent is diminishing, because there hasn't been another similar walkout.

You posted that someone needed to demonstrate "structural discontent" via a news story involving at least 1K employees. They linked to one involving 20K. And your response to that is: "This proves that discontent is diminishing?" You set the challenge, they exceeded it 20x, and you've not made a believable case that this shows "content is diminishing." In fact exceeding your original demands by 20x seems to thoroughl…

For anyone pointing to "structural discontent" at Google, you guys seem to be very out of touch with reality. Compared to 99% of other large corporations (in US, or worldwide), Google is heaven on Earth as a place to work at. $200k entry level comp, lots of perks, very smart people all around you, open culture, coolest stuff to work on, cutting edge tech stack and great tools, future technologies being invented right next to you (or by you!), etc, etc. There are problems, or course, because you're bound to have problems in any 100k organization, but at other places it's so much worse. Try working at any company on Fortune 500 list, other than FAANG, or at any government agency, and see how much tolerance for "discontent" is there. The amount of BS per $ you will have to endure there is simply incomparable.

Or maybe you want to hold Google to higher standards just because it's Google? Why exactly?

Re: Sundar will be the CEO of both Google and Alphabet

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Post by Rebelgecko »

pier25 wrote: post #112
throwwwawayyy wrote: post #27

Posting this as throwaway because, well, obvious. The heat is on Google and its founders. It goes beyond anything that’s in the press right now. The real question is if regulators and others will allow Sundar to take the heat for everything and keep Larry and Sergey from the “hassle” of having to testify about anti-competitive practices and a whole range of other issues. And then there are the “hobbies” of the early…

What are those "hobbies" you talk about?

IIRC there was a book that claimed one of the founders took liberties with the massage room and some of the staff

edit: i think it was this https://www.businessinsider.com/google-sergey-brin-employees...

Re: Sundar will be the CEO of both Google and Alphabet

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Post by throwaway9381 »

Hm, a high profile resignation. I've heard that there's been many high profile resignations in the last year or two across many Fortune 500 companies, I can't confirm this myself though. I've heard conspiracy theorists say it's cause the deep state is being flushed out. Personally I think there is more than meets the eye with this resignation.
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