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Sundar will be the CEO of both Google and Alphabet

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Re: Sundar will be the CEO of both Google and Alphabet

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Post by enitihas »

lacker wrote: post #67
nvrspyx wrote: post #25

I see a few comments praising Sundar. As someone who doesn’t follow closely, but feels that Google has deteriorated dramatically under his watch, does someone mind explaining the reasoning for said praise?

Google's market cap has approximately doubled while Sundar has been the CEO. That's the simplest reason. Personally I think a lot of their products have gotten better recently, like the experience of using voice-controlled Google Maps in my car, and Google Cloud is superior to AWS in many ways, but the company really offers so many different product lines that it's hard for personal experience to be a great represent…

But hadn't it grown more in the preceding 5 years than in the 4 years headed by Sundar. Looking at the share price, it seems it has roughly doubled every 5 years since 2005.

Re: Sundar will be the CEO of both Google and Alphabet

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Post by pier25 »

throwwwawayyy wrote: post #27

Posting this as throwaway because, well, obvious. The heat is on Google and its founders. It goes beyond anything that’s in the press right now. The real question is if regulators and others will allow Sundar to take the heat for everything and keep Larry and Sergey from the “hassle” of having to testify about anti-competitive practices and a whole range of other issues. And then there are the “hobbies” of the early…

What are those "hobbies" you talk about?

Re: Sundar will be the CEO of both Google and Alphabet

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Post by bedhead »

It is clear that Sergey and Larry (and Eric) have been asleep at the switch in shaping Google's culture, which now looks like the campus of Evergreen State College. Both he and Sergey have seemed checked out for years. Being the CEO of this company, especially given everything they've accomplished, doesn't seem very fun. I couldn't tell you what Sergey's been doing there or if he even works at all. This company's culture is trending towards being toxic but that they invented the world's greatest money-making machine has been able to paper over a lot of the rot.

Re: Sundar will be the CEO of both Google and Alphabet

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Post by shadowgovt »

andrewstuart wrote: post #14

Google needs to fix its reputation for killing products. https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2019/04/googles-constant-pro...

Honestly, part of Google's approach is to kill products. They're a company with a startup-incubation-emulator running inside them. Things that seem worthwhile get resources, but if a product can't make its way to profitability in some amount of time, it dies.

They should probably be more up-front about the messaging around this, but if you step back and look at their practice, that's how it appears to work. User numbers don't matter; profitability matters. Not unlike startups in the long-run.

Re: Sundar will be the CEO of both Google and Alphabet

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Post by Skunkleton »

viburnum wrote: post #94

These guys have all the money and power in the world, and they've used it to turn an excellent service into a sleazy ad machine. They have $50 billion each. What would it have cost them to run Google without making it trashy? Would they have even noticed if they only had $5 billion each?

Don't blame them, blame corporate capitalism. This is where all publicly traded american businesses end up.

Re: Sundar will be the CEO of both Google and Alphabet

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Post by goatinaboat »

lacker wrote: post #67
nvrspyx wrote: post #25

I see a few comments praising Sundar. As someone who doesn’t follow closely, but feels that Google has deteriorated dramatically under his watch, does someone mind explaining the reasoning for said praise?

Google's market cap has approximately doubled while Sundar has been the CEO. That's the simplest reason. Personally I think a lot of their products have gotten better recently, like the experience of using voice-controlled Google Maps in my car, and Google Cloud is superior to AWS in many ways, but the company really offers so many different product lines that it's hard for personal experience to be a great represent…

Correlation is not causation.

Re: Sundar will be the CEO of both Google and Alphabet

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Post by UncleMeat »

ardit33 wrote: post #33
ggm wrote: post #5

Absolutely nothing about the structural discontent emerging in staff. And nothing about the increasing sense of a loss of claimed ethical stance. I stress claimed, because the lack of concern at the top at its obvious demise makes it less likely it was actually held as a core belief.

Unless it there is more behind the scenes, the letter is basically saying: We don't want to deal, or like/enjoy dealing with this pesky employee stuff. We don't have the time, energy, or enjoy it, and they'd rather do something else with their time and money. They are in a position where they either crack-down on their culture to more of a corp like, and appear to go full evil, or be even more lenient, and risk small…

Does a CEO of a 100,000 employee company ever have this kind of low level management?

Larry and Sergey have been obviously taking on less of a role since Sundar took over as CEO of Google. They've been at Google for more than two decades and are mega billionaires. Do people really think that this has anything to do with agitation among employees?

Re: Sundar will be the CEO of both Google and Alphabet

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Post by jpm_sd »

nvrspyx wrote: post #25

I see a few comments praising Sundar. As someone who doesn’t follow closely, but feels that Google has deteriorated dramatically under his watch, does someone mind explaining the reasoning for said praise?

He's Ballmer-ing steadily forward, that's all that is really needed at this point.
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