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Huawei Manages to Make Smartphones Without American Chips

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Re: Huawei Manages to Make Smartphones Without American Chips

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I'd be curious to know if Huawei phones and network devices are currently being used for surveillance in Hong Kong.

Yes? Surveillance is common worldwide and Huawei is a popular brand in the region.

I'm guessing you're curious if the Chinese government is using some hidden backdoor in Huawei products to spy on Hong Kong residents who would otherwise be acting privately.

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* Subsidized by the Chinese govt. and intellectual property stolen from western companies.

I know a few Natives on Twitter who say similar things about the US -- only talking about real property, not intellectual property -- and who would like their land back.

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Re: Huawei Manages to Make Smartphones Without American Chips

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post #4

I checked out a Huawei store - they're the same asthetic as an apple store with a ton more useful tech then an ipod, macbook and imac. The phones were impressive and very affordable. We're talking $200-300 for 6gb ram devices, 128gb storage, etc. Google, Apple are right to be worried.

* Subsidized by the Chinese govt. and intellectual property stolen from western companies.

Maybe that's true but I think we should assume they do their own R&D as well.

Re: Huawei Manages to Make Smartphones Without American Chips

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This is really impressive for Huawei. I do not mean to say that the trade war between China and the US is the same as the Cold War from before, but I have a fun tidbit to share. One of the more interesting theories I heard for why the US won the Cold War is because Russia struggled to develop IC technology. The Russians were masters of espionage, and I would even give them the edge in mechanical engineering, but the…

The United States is still better at technology, and Russia is better at espionage. Never underestimate the underdog.

There was a massive article on the modern KGB under Putin in 2017(?), I think in the Atlantic. They basically managed to hack into some offline Pentagon systems by distributing infected USB drives around that location, through different outlets, in the hopes that an unsuspecting target will use a USB drive on a secure system, and then insert it on a wired machine. Boom. It worked.

Re: Huawei Manages to Make Smartphones Without American Chips

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know a few Natives on Twitter who say similar things about the US -- only talking about real property, not intellectual property -- and who would like their land back.

moral relativism across space conjoined with moral absolutism across time is a silly combination

Couldn't agree more. Well put.

Re: Huawei Manages to Make Smartphones Without American Chips

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

* Subsidized by the Chinese govt. and intellectual property stolen from western companies.

I know a few Natives on Twitter who say similar things about the US -- only talking about real property, not intellectual property -- and who would like their land back.

This is the weakest whataboutism I've ever seen

Re: Huawei Manages to Make Smartphones Without American Chips

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post #24

This is really impressive for Huawei. I do not mean to say that the trade war between China and the US is the same as the Cold War from before, but I have a fun tidbit to share. One of the more interesting theories I heard for why the US won the Cold War is because Russia struggled to develop IC technology. The Russians were masters of espionage, and I would even give them the edge in mechanical engineering, but the…

The United States is still better at technology, and Russia is better at espionage. Never underestimate the underdog. There was a massive article on the modern KGB under Putin in 2017(?), I think in the Atlantic. They basically managed to hack into some offline Pentagon systems by distributing infected USB drives around that location, through different outlets, in the hopes that an unsuspecting target will use a USB…

So basically the same trick as Stuxnet?

Re: Huawei Manages to Make Smartphones Without American Chips

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

* Subsidized by the Chinese govt. and intellectual property stolen from western companies.

I know a few Natives on Twitter who say similar things about the US -- only talking about real property, not intellectual property -- and who would like their land back.

I fail to see how this anecdote about a Twitter comment is relevant to a comment about IP theft.

GP is correct - any older Cisco employee can count off a laundry list of things Huawei directly stole from them, and the Chinese state absolutely subsidizes them. GP is making the point that it isn't fair to compare Huawei prices to Apple prices given the amount of engineering Huawei stole from other companies and their government subsidies.

Re: Huawei Manages to Make Smartphones Without American Chips

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post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

* Subsidized by the Chinese govt. and intellectual property stolen from western companies.

I’ve no dog in this race but I feel the selective outrage to Huawei and other chines tech companies hypocritical while America consumes more and more goods produced in China without batting an eye.

The problem also, is that tech companies in Russia and in China have no choice but to cooperate with the state and be part of espionage. This is not just about open and fair markets, yada yada. This is only "clean" in theory.
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