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Huawei Manages to Make Smartphones Without American Chips

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Re: Huawei Manages to Make Smartphones Without American Chips

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I checked out a Huawei store - they're the same asthetic as an apple store with a ton more useful tech then an ipod, macbook and imac.

The phones were impressive and very affordable. We're talking $200-300 for 6gb ram devices, 128gb storage, etc.

Google, Apple are right to be worried.

Re: Huawei Manages to Make Smartphones Without American Chips

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post #4

I checked out a Huawei store - they're the same asthetic as an apple store with a ton more useful tech then an ipod, macbook and imac. The phones were impressive and very affordable. We're talking $200-300 for 6gb ram devices, 128gb storage, etc. Google, Apple are right to be worried.

* Subsidized by the Chinese govt. and intellectual property stolen from western companies.

Re: Huawei Manages to Make Smartphones Without American Chips

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post #4

I checked out a Huawei store - they're the same asthetic as an apple store with a ton more useful tech then an ipod, macbook and imac. The phones were impressive and very affordable. We're talking $200-300 for 6gb ram devices, 128gb storage, etc. Google, Apple are right to be worried.

* Subsidized by the Chinese govt. and intellectual property stolen from western companies.

I’ve no dog in this race but I feel the selective outrage to Huawei and other chines tech companies hypocritical while America consumes more and more goods produced in China without batting an eye.

Re: Huawei Manages to Make Smartphones Without American Chips

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This is really impressive for Huawei. I do not mean to say that the trade war between China and the US is the same as the Cold War from before, but I have a fun tidbit to share.

One of the more interesting theories I heard for why the US won the Cold War is because Russia struggled to develop IC technology. The Russians were masters of espionage, and I would even give them the edge in mechanical engineering, but the United States' ability to master electrical engineering proved more important. They just couldn't build computers like the US, and computers proved to be wildly important for technological breakthroughs.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_computing_in_the_So...

Now that Huawei has figured out how to do it without us, it's really become autonomous. This is great news for China, and will help them enormously in the ongoing trade war. And obviously it's not so great for the US.

Re: Huawei Manages to Make Smartphones Without American Chips

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Even if those chips are completely devoid of American-origin IP cores, they almost certainly were designed with American-origin EDA software.

I am not sure if such chips would be covered by existing export bans or if EDA software licensing agreements prohibit export of produced design files to countries subject to US export bans.

If neither is the case, I expect either or both to change soon.

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