Landauer's principle intuitively: the laws of physics are reversible, and therefore two distinct states (1 or 0) always map to two distinct states (1 or 0, evolved). So how can you erase a bit - take a 1 or 0 and map them to a 0? The answer is that you have to send the 0 or 1 to the environment i.e. map 1 or 0 to (system,environment) = (0,1) or (0,0) , which manifests as the dissipation of heat.
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#42Landauer's principle intuitively: the laws of physics are reversible, and therefore two distinct states (1 or 0) always map to two distinct states (1 or 0, evolved). So how can you erase a bit - take a 1 or 0 and map them to a 0? The answer is that you have to send the 0 or 1 to the environment i.e. map 1 or 0 to (system,environment) = (0,1) or (0,0) , which manifests as the dissipation of heat.
So where does the information go upon the final heath death of the universe? Does it become encoded by, say, the final diameter of the post-expansion universe (i.e. by some "environmental" property at the sub-quantum field level)?
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#43Landauer's principle intuitively: the laws of physics are reversible, and therefore two distinct states (1 or 0) always map to two distinct states (1 or 0, evolved). So how can you erase a bit - take a 1 or 0 and map them to a 0? The answer is that you have to send the 0 or 1 to the environment i.e. map 1 or 0 to (system,environment) = (0,1) or (0,0) , which manifests as the dissipation of heat.
So where does the information go upon the final heath death of the universe? Does it become encoded by, say, the final diameter of the post-expansion universe (i.e. by some "environmental" property at the sub-quantum field level)?
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#44Theories are now emerging that Universe is running one large bayesian learning algorithm (bayesian inference itself is proven to be an optimal knowledge creation method) See e.g. Bayesian Brain and Universal Darwinism
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#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
Weird. It's new to me that we didn't have experimental evidence before, but I guess it would have to be pretty subtle equipment. I wish I knew how to catalog/index my assumption/belief set, so I could scrub it down for unverified sub-assumptions from time-to-time. I'm happy to update them, when they are proven wrong, but I don't know how to do this methodically and as a result, my brain fills up with crap. And then I…
There are quite a few things in physics which didn't have direct experimental evidence, while most are convinced because the theoretical results and incomplete evidence are persuasive enough. If this Science article is accurate, there was no direct experimental evidence that proved the majority energy of the Sun comes from the fusion of protons into helium, until the neutrino experiment in 2014. https://www.sciencema…
Well ... yes, yes they did.
Pretty fascinating, if light, overview of what's involved in neutron detection. A case of understanding theoretical models (causal knowledge), materials, purity and processing, conversion processes (neutrino interaction -> light -> photodetector), statistics, and ultimately, a view of what was happenning inside the solar core eight minutes ago, events which won't manifest on the solar surface for another 100,000 years.
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#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
Weird. It's new to me that we didn't have experimental evidence before, but I guess it would have to be pretty subtle equipment. I wish I knew how to catalog/index my assumption/belief set, so I could scrub it down for unverified sub-assumptions from time-to-time. I'm happy to update them, when they are proven wrong, but I don't know how to do this methodically and as a result, my brain fills up with crap. And then I…
Your brain is not a computer
https://www.amazon.com/When-Computers-Human-David-Grier/dp/0...
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#47Landauer's principle intuitively: the laws of physics are reversible, and therefore two distinct states (1 or 0) always map to two distinct states (1 or 0, evolved). So how can you erase a bit - take a 1 or 0 and map them to a 0? The answer is that you have to send the 0 or 1 to the environment i.e. map 1 or 0 to (system,environment) = (0,1) or (0,0) , which manifests as the dissipation of heat.
So where does the information go upon the final heath death of the universe? Does it become encoded by, say, the final diameter of the post-expansion universe (i.e. by some "environmental" property at the sub-quantum field level)?
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#48Earlier quoted context omitted.
See also: brain as hydraulics, brain as a system of cogs, brain as a computer.[1] [1] https://aeon.co/essays/your-brain-does-not-process-informati...
Argh, that article! Those are metaphors at some level of representation!!! You could argue in the same specious way that a computer is not a computer because it is really a bunch of atoms interacting via non deterministic quantum mechanical rules so it can't really implement deterministic algorithms and error free information storage. The three conditions stated in the article basically are the set up for reinforceme…
Less load/process/store of absolute data and more like natural processes such as the process of erosion creating rivers. The analogy of the environment as a "lock" and organisms are just the most fit "keys" to success in particular environment.
So the computer analogy is bad because organisms are more a matrix of interactions, feedbacks and responses that work well enough, but dont follow a "logical" design. This can be replicated within a computer easily and the result is evolutionary computation & hardware, genetic algorithms and evolutionary neural networks. The problem in understanding the result of evolutionary systems is that they're blind to design and only respond to fitness and therefore create systems that are so tightly coupled it's a quest to understand how the model even works.
So the article is suggesting we shouldn't apply human design principles to evolved solutions. Perhaps we need some kind of "messy science" to make sense of it all.
Going forward, machine learning running evolutionary algorithms on neural networks should be able to produce sufficiently incomprehensibility for us to be studying our own inventions for years to come.
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#49I think the next step for physics could be potentially in establishing the link between abstract information and what is perceived as "real matter".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-organization
Forms can be quantified by the entropy with respect to its component parts -- generally, the more ordered, the less entropy. Constructing things broadly corresponds to reducing the entropy of the set of configurations of the components.