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Re: Twitter CEO Endorses DuckDuckGo

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Post by livatlantis »

madiathomas wrote: post #168
jshc wrote: post #166

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incognito mode does not prevent your search from being tracked.

Any evidence to backup your claims that they track incognito searches? They promised not to track and I don't see anything that suggests they do track me when I am incognito.

Incognito is "private" in the sense that it doesn't leave a trace locally, on your computer.

From https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/95464?co=GENIE.Plat... :

> - Chrome won't save your browsing history, cookies and site data, or information entered in forms. > - Files you download and bookmarks you create will be kept. >- Your activity isn’t hidden from websites you visit, your employer or school, or your internet service provider.

Your IP, referrers etc are still visible. The only thing is you're perhaps not logged in. It doesn't do much to protect you at all.

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Post by Thorrez »

godelski wrote: post #154
Thorrez wrote: post #129

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There's a difference between getting results from sites that contain content (Wikipedia, Stack Overflow, Yelp) and sites that are pure search engines (Bing).

There's also a difference between reskinning a search engine and aggregating other engines' results with your own.

Sure, and AFAIK Google does neither of those, so it would be wrong to say "Google does similar things".

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Post by pkamb »

wayneftw wrote: post #220
pkamb wrote: post #137

I switched my iPhone to Duck Duck Go over the last few days simply because I hate hate HATE getting linked to Reddit AMP pages from Google. Reddit (and Stack Exchange) pages are what I use most to find honest discussions about some topic. Very convenient to use those results to filter through the blogspam. Reddit's AMP pages are especially bad, with multiple annoying pop-ups that don't get cookied when you dismiss th…

Now in iOS 13 you can set a preference to always request the desktop site for a given domain. That's the only thing keeping me on the Google search default on my iPhone. It's a bit annoying to have to zoom in on the results after every search, but that's still less annoying than trying to escape from AMP pages. And, no matter which engine I use, I have to deal with the crappy Reddit redesign - so that's still annoyin…

Where is this preference?

Re: Twitter CEO Endorses DuckDuckGo

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Post by evilnight »

calcifer wrote: post #202
echelon wrote: post #153

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If I had the time I'd work on a Reddit clone without the new redesign and ads. Run it completely funded by Wikipedia-style donations, then turn it over to the community for governance. Reddit's money grabs piss me off. To bootstrap the thing I'd crawl Reddit and copy threads, users, subreddits, comments - everything. Users could prove account ownership or create any account that wasn't already allocated. If Reddit su…

> If I had the time I'd work on a Reddit clone without the new redesign and ads. Run it completely funded by Wikipedia-style donations Already exists and made by one of the earlier reddit employees: https://tildes.net

Indeed. Anyone interested should check out the initial announcement on the blog: https://blog.tildes.net/announcing-tildes

Privacy oriented, open source, user funded, focused on quality content, aiming to develop a user-centric moderation system like slashdot and stack exchange that puts moderation into the hands of the people who participate in each individual community.

If you have a reddit account, you can visit /r/tildes and leave a reply in the sticky invite thread to get an invite code within a day. Or, you can send an email to invites@tildes.net to get one.

It's worth noting that Tildes is created and operated by Deimos, the same guy who created reddit's automoderator and subredditsimulator.

Re: Twitter CEO Endorses DuckDuckGo

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Post by bobbylarrybobby »

pkamb wrote: post #224
wayneftw wrote: post #220

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Now in iOS 13 you can set a preference to always request the desktop site for a given domain. That's the only thing keeping me on the Google search default on my iPhone. It's a bit annoying to have to zoom in on the results after every search, but that's still less annoying than trying to escape from AMP pages. And, no matter which engine I use, I have to deal with the crappy Reddit redesign - so that's still annoyin…

Where is this preference?

The “aA” in the address bar

Re: Twitter CEO Endorses DuckDuckGo

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Post by zepearl »

beefield wrote: post #151
zepearl wrote: post #90

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Does anybody have any infos about Qwant? It's the only EU-based search engine with its own indexing engine ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qwant ) I don't care if it's EU or not, but is the index real or kind of half-fake? (like "yes, we have an index, but it's 10MBs big...") I started using Qwant ~2 months ago and it isn't bad: the snippets that are shown in the search results often don't contain the search terms th…

No knowledge, but at least for my searches it has a definite edge against ddg. (I am European.) What I especially like is that in many cases qwant returns nothing if there is no exact match of my query (typically I made a typo.) I kind of like the feeling that the engine tries to search what I tell it to search, not what it thinks I want to search.

> What I especially like is that in many cases qwant returns nothing if there is no exact match of my query

I agree - I admit of having been surprised the first time that it returned "nothing" but in the end I did like the feeling of knowing that it did search what I wanted to search.

Re: Twitter CEO Endorses DuckDuckGo

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Post by zepearl »

pedro2 wrote: post #126
zepearl wrote: post #90

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Does anybody have any infos about Qwant? It's the only EU-based search engine with its own indexing engine ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qwant ) I don't care if it's EU or not, but is the index real or kind of half-fake? (like "yes, we have an index, but it's 10MBs big...") I started using Qwant ~2 months ago and it isn't bad: the snippets that are shown in the search results often don't contain the search terms th…

I would like to know too. I read someone on social media alleging they also used Bing behind the scenes, without attribution, but I haven’t researched further.

You might be right :(

By searching some random words like "when to buy fruitcakes" (without double quotes) I get almost the same listing in Qwant as in Bing. The results are a bit too similar... .

Re: Twitter CEO Endorses DuckDuckGo

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Post by st1ck »

Yizahi wrote: post #215
__ka wrote: post #36

I have mixed feelings about this. If you recommend DuckDuckGo, Qwant, Ecosia you're essentially recommending Bing. Each of them have to show bing ads, forward the users' IPs as per Bing's terms of service (to fight ad fraud etc). Similarly, if you recommend StartPage, you're recommending Google. Same drill with ads. I like DuckDuckGo. But unless they build their own search - I think the fundamental problem has not be…

There are basically 4 search engines left in the whole world - Baidu (China), Yandex (Russia, recently officially with KGB management), Google and Bing. That is all, full stop. Everyone else is a fancy GUI for on them. Google has more than 90% market share and each of the rest has like 1-3%. Building new engine is prohibitively costly and hard. So the lesser evil is Bing, by simple elimination.

AFAIK, DDG uses Yandex engine for searches in Russian.

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Post by pkamb »

bobbylarrybobby wrote: post #226
pkamb wrote: post #224

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Where is this preference?

The “aA” in the address bar

So you set that for google.com, and then zoom in to see the non-mobile SERP every time? And non-mobile Google never links to AMP?

I was hoping there was a setting for the results domain that disabled AMP.

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