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Re: Twitter CEO Endorses DuckDuckGo

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Digital ad company CEO endorses competitor of rival digital ad company.

Twitter makes less than $3B/year on ads. Google makes $135B+. Are they really competitors?

Yes, they are. Both have ads as their primary revenue stream. It does not matter if they are unequal in size, they still compete in the same space.

Re: Twitter CEO Endorses DuckDuckGo

#132
post #67

DuckDuckGo is still not ready to be my daily driver. Here's my last significant Google search: "monaco IndentAction.Indent" The documentation I was looking for[0] was the: - 1st hit on Google[1] - 17th hit on DDG[2] but to be fair I didn't find it within the first 10 (!) pages of Bing[3], so at least it's better than Bing. And I work for MSFT. I submitted feedback to DDG & Bing, hopefully it helps. [0] https://micros…

For me, this is one of the things where I’m simply more explicit in what I’m looking for. So I would append api to the terms (as I’m looking for an api doc) and indeed this pushed the site you wanted to #1.

Re: Twitter CEO Endorses DuckDuckGo

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Respectfully, I think you are definitely overestimating the cost of building a search engine. Do you have experience in search specifically? Asking in good faith here. I think you're absolutely right that it's not trivial , but it isn't a completely unsolvable problem only addressable by the major spyware corporations like Facebook, Google, etc. I think you could build a decent search engine in about 6-18 months if a…

Wouldn't there be a ton of search startups if it were actually this easy?

I think competing with Google would actually be a more difficult problem

Re: Twitter CEO Endorses DuckDuckGo

#134

> The app is even better! What does that mean? I guess https://duckduckgo.com/app is a browser, and a browser extension? The app is a relatively better browser than DDG search is a search engine?

The DDG app is honestly pretty bad... the last time I tried it, there wasn't even support for tabs so you're stuck with one page view at a time. Honestly, IDK why anyone would not just use Firefox Mobile. It's got addons support too

Not sure when you last tried the app but it does indeed support tabs!

Re: Twitter CEO Endorses DuckDuckGo

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post #119

Honest question: how do you people even cope with the crap results? I'm a StartPage user, but decided to try DDG for some time after the System1 debacle [1]. The Swedish localized search results are downright unusable compared to StartPage/Google. I'm really trying to give it a chance, but I keep reaching for SP in every other search. [1] https://reclaimthenet.org/startpage-buyout-ad-tech-company/

I use DDG as my main search engine and I agree localised results are subpar ( I'm Brazilian ). I end up resorting to the !g bang most of the time but since these kinds of searches are a just small subset of my queries, it doesn't bother me that much.

If you find issues with localized search be sure to report them with examples of what sites would give better results locally!

Re: Twitter CEO Endorses DuckDuckGo

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The idea about private browsing is silly to me frankly. Sure DuckDuckGo can be more "private" than Google on its face, but unless they are incorporated deep in Switzerland and dev/null all traffic from a US-based IPs, they are obligated, by laws, to record-keeping and in general KYC even if its only mere "search quote" and "IP address". Otherwise the would quickly get shut down by authorities (DHS in this example) under suspicious of aiding/abetting terrorism the moment someone punches "how to make bomb" and they do not properly store relevant meta-tag information.

Re: Twitter CEO Endorses DuckDuckGo

#137
I switched my iPhone to Duck Duck Go over the last few days simply because I hate hate HATE getting linked to Reddit AMP pages from Google.

Reddit (and Stack Exchange) pages are what I use most to find honest discussions about some topic. Very convenient to use those results to filter through the blogspam.

Reddit's AMP pages are especially bad, with multiple annoying pop-ups that don't get cookied when you dismiss them on AMP. I don't understand what Reddit is getting out of the deal... their mobile site is equally as "mobile" as the AMP page. The AMP experience is so bad.

No preference to un-AMP yourself on Google. So, I switched my search engine. The DDG results seem significantly worse, or at least very different. But old.reddit.com pages load perfectly, and fast.

Re: Twitter CEO Endorses DuckDuckGo

#138
post #36

I have mixed feelings about this. If you recommend DuckDuckGo, Qwant, Ecosia you're essentially recommending Bing. Each of them have to show bing ads, forward the users' IPs as per Bing's terms of service (to fight ad fraud etc). Similarly, if you recommend StartPage, you're recommending Google. Same drill with ads. I like DuckDuckGo. But unless they build their own search - I think the fundamental problem has not be…

A duopoly will be marginally better at implementing user-friendly features like privacy than a monopoly, because there is at least nominal competition.

However I think we need to start asking deeper questions - why is it that concentration is so prevalent in the software industry?

Software is often said to have "natural" monopoly characteristics, but are those characteristics really a product of "nature" in the way that say the laws of physics are, or are they a product of IP laws and the regulatory choices made by the government?

Re: Twitter CEO Endorses DuckDuckGo

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post #6

Yes @jack yes! Hopefully more high-profile thought leaders will enter the public discourse to advise on more sane, privacy-respecting alternatives. I'm glad I was relieved of hating @jack at least momentarily. :')

Such a victory, a man who makes his money selling your data has advised us not to use another company that makes it's money selling data...

Forget the intent. The effects will be more people using privacy-focused software and applications.

Re: Twitter CEO Endorses DuckDuckGo

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post #137

I switched my iPhone to Duck Duck Go over the last few days simply because I hate hate HATE getting linked to Reddit AMP pages from Google. Reddit (and Stack Exchange) pages are what I use most to find honest discussions about some topic. Very convenient to use those results to filter through the blogspam. Reddit's AMP pages are especially bad, with multiple annoying pop-ups that don't get cookied when you dismiss th…

I 100% agree with the reddit experience - it takes like 4 taps just to get to the #%!* page. No I don’t want your app shoved down my throat on every load. It has completely ruined reddit for me on mobile. Just show me ads if you need to and leave me alone.
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