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Re: Master–Slave Morality

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Post by slowenough »

UnFleshedOne wrote: post #43
slowenough wrote: post #39

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Hypothesis: In a liberal democracy, when leaders adopts a persona of master morality, the slaves are threatened. If leaders instead project a slave morality, the slaves are peaceable and content. But behind the scenes, it seems like a state needs to rule with master morality, but for peaceableness, promote the adoption of slave morality among the slaves. Controversial view: Christianity is a perfect ruling tool becau…

Why is it a controversial view? I thought it was a general view that this was exactly why monotheism of this sort got enthusiastically adopted and enforced by monarchies -- one true god, one true king, sheeple and all that.

The trigger for controversy on HN is quite fine.

Re: Master–Slave Morality

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Post by 0db532a0 »

KirinDave wrote: post #60
0db532a0 wrote: post #51

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Easiest trick in the book: Associate any idea you disagree with, with "certain vocal minorities". Works wonders on here and Twitbook. I put this in the same bag as I put book reviews which go along the lines of "characters have no depth", and "no plot". Is the fact that Nietzsche is still studied and cited in a positive light, that books are written on his works by academics at leading universities including Oxford s…

> Easiest trick in the book: Associate any idea you disagree with, with "certain vocal minorities". Works wonders on here and Twitbook. I put this in the same bag as I put book reviews which go along the lines of "characters have no depth", and "no plot". I'm not sure who's literary critique in particular hurt you, but it's irrelevant. > Is the fact that Nietzsche is still studied and cited in a positive light, that…

I had never heard of NRx until you mentioned it. I generally try to stay away from selling my identity to a single word, or a set of words.

Yes, I am not a social marxism conspiracy theorist at all. Right and left, it's all the same. You've missed the whole point I have tried to make.

I will rephrase in a more literal way for you to understand, in a way more difficult to avoid: Without resorting to claims of crackpotness, conspiracy theory, sympathising with vocal minorities and Nietzsche's ideas' supposed negative consequences on society, what exactly do you disagree with about using Nietzsche to understand our moral psychology, and specifically about the sources I have given in this post and in my other submissions?

I envy you like I envy god-believers. It must be nice to believe and fit in.

Re: Master–Slave Morality

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Post by 0db532a0 »

KirinDave wrote: post #60
0db532a0 wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Easiest trick in the book: Associate any idea you disagree with, with "certain vocal minorities". Works wonders on here and Twitbook. I put this in the same bag as I put book reviews which go along the lines of "characters have no depth", and "no plot". Is the fact that Nietzsche is still studied and cited in a positive light, that books are written on his works by academics at leading universities including Oxford s…

> Easiest trick in the book: Associate any idea you disagree with, with "certain vocal minorities". Works wonders on here and Twitbook. I put this in the same bag as I put book reviews which go along the lines of "characters have no depth", and "no plot". I'm not sure who's literary critique in particular hurt you, but it's irrelevant. > Is the fact that Nietzsche is still studied and cited in a positive light, that…

On the book reviews comment: If you read a few books and also a few book reviews, you'll find two things: These two types of review are most common, and they are written when the author has nothing positive or negative to actually add on the subject of the book. The author just can't be arsed.

The commonality is that these cheap jibes really add no information, they are aimed at derailing a discussion someone doesn't like. You know that, though.

Re: Master–Slave Morality

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Post by KirinDave »

0db532a0 wrote: post #62
KirinDave wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Easiest trick in the book: Associate any idea you disagree with, with "certain vocal minorities". Works wonders on here and Twitbook. I put this in the same bag as I put book reviews which go along the lines of "characters have no depth", and "no plot". I'm not sure who's literary critique in particular hurt you, but it's irrelevant. > Is the fact that Nietzsche is still studied and cited in a positive light, that…

I had never heard of NRx until you mentioned it. I generally try to stay away from selling my identity to a single word, or a set of words. Yes, I am not a social marxism conspiracy theorist at all. Right and left, it's all the same. You've missed the whole point I have tried to make. I will rephrase in a more literal way for you to understand, in a way more difficult to avoid: Without resorting to claims of crackpot…

> I envy you like I envy god-believers. It must be nice to believe and fit in.

Yeah it must be really difficult being so smart. This is a compelling and powerful argument that is not only relevant, but also persuasive.

> Right and left, it's all the same. You've missed the whole point I have tried to make.

You've not made one, nor will you. I hope you have a happy evening.

Re: Master–Slave Morality

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Post by 0db532a0 »

KirinDave wrote: post #64
0db532a0 wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I had never heard of NRx until you mentioned it. I generally try to stay away from selling my identity to a single word, or a set of words. Yes, I am not a social marxism conspiracy theorist at all. Right and left, it's all the same. You've missed the whole point I have tried to make. I will rephrase in a more literal way for you to understand, in a way more difficult to avoid: Without resorting to claims of crackpot…

> I envy you like I envy god-believers. It must be nice to believe and fit in. Yeah it must be really difficult being so smart. This is a compelling and powerful argument that is not only relevant, but also persuasive. > Right and left, it's all the same. You've missed the whole point I have tried to make. You've not made one, nor will you. I hope you have a happy evening.

How insensitive and solipsistic of you to assume my time zone. It’s morning here.

McCarthy and the pinkos then, your lot and the alt-right now. Same shit, different bucket. Enjoy it while it serves you.

Re: Master–Slave Morality

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Post by 0db532a0 »

KirinDave wrote: post #64
0db532a0 wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I had never heard of NRx until you mentioned it. I generally try to stay away from selling my identity to a single word, or a set of words. Yes, I am not a social marxism conspiracy theorist at all. Right and left, it's all the same. You've missed the whole point I have tried to make. I will rephrase in a more literal way for you to understand, in a way more difficult to avoid: Without resorting to claims of crackpot…

> I envy you like I envy god-believers. It must be nice to believe and fit in. Yeah it must be really difficult being so smart. This is a compelling and powerful argument that is not only relevant, but also persuasive. > Right and left, it's all the same. You've missed the whole point I have tried to make. You've not made one, nor will you. I hope you have a happy evening.

Actually I just realised that you avoided the question again, and pulled another of those “no character depth” and “no plot” tricks. I guess it’s a lost cause at this point.
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