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Maybe you should look at the book Moral Psychology with Nietzsche: https://global.oup.com/academic/product/moral-psychology-wit... .
Thanks for the reference, it looks good. What's the takeaway?
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I think the biggest issue is that for the system to succeed, most participants need to display the first list of traits. But for any individual within the system, personal success may be easier to obtain by displaying the second set (though that is not necessarily true, in my experience).
It's like the person in the sportscar weaving through traffic on the highway. He can only do it because everyone else drives carefully and predictably. He gets to his destination faster, and thinks he is a much better driver than everyone else, but if everyone drove like him the traffic "system" would fall apart. The master mindset is sacrificing the well working system for personal gain. If you want to go fast go al…
Hypothesis: In a liberal democracy, when leaders adopts a persona of master morality, the slaves are threatened. If leaders instead project a slave morality, the slaves are peaceable and content. But behind the scenes, it seems like a state needs to rule with master morality, but for peaceableness, promote the adoption of slave morality among the slaves. Controversial view: Christianity is a perfect ruling tool becau…
Hypothesis: In a liberal democracy, when leaders adopts a persona of master morality, the slaves are threatened. If leaders instead project a slave morality, the slaves are peaceable and content. But behind the scenes, it seems like a state needs to rule with master morality, but for peaceableness, promote the adoption of slave morality among the slaves. Controversial view: Christianity is a perfect ruling tool becau…
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I'm just too nice to be one of those jerk CEOs that society wants. That's why I'm not successful. /s This sounds a lot like "nice guy" syndrome, to be honest. Edit: Added /s just to be clear.
you can be firm and forward without being a jerk. Jerk: this looks like shit, do it again. Not Jerk: almost there. let's do another iteration.
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Hypothesis: In a liberal democracy, when leaders adopts a persona of master morality, the slaves are threatened. If leaders instead project a slave morality, the slaves are peaceable and content. But behind the scenes, it seems like a state needs to rule with master morality, but for peaceableness, promote the adoption of slave morality among the slaves. Controversial view: Christianity is a perfect ruling tool becau…
Why is it a controversial view? I thought it was a general view that this was exactly why monotheism of this sort got enthusiastically adopted and enforced by monarchies -- one true god, one true king, sheeple and all that.
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Nietzsche's philosophy had a profound influence on the colonial wars that Europe fought, and the world wars that were fought in Europe. What an absolute humanitarian travesty that era was.
Yeah, just like Einstein and nuclear weapons.
This is not a meaningful or interesting article for Hacker News, and in the world of Philosophy this is not a slam dunk of a concept.
Counterargument: it was meaningful and interesting to me.
This is not a meaningful or interesting article for Hacker News, and in the world of Philosophy this is not a slam dunk of a concept.
Contextualise, under Nietzsche's master-slave moralities, the following topics over which there is an abundance of articles and discussions on HN, posted by people who frequent HN: Gender/racial equality, language games over gender, rights to be called one name or another, the elusive one percent, supposed rights to privacy and free speech, the right not to incriminate oneself, the pornification/glorification of work…
And behold, the mods seem to have agreed to remove this from the front page. So at least we are being consistent.
> language games over gender
Don't think I didn't catch this, lil NRx buddy.
Reminded of this quote from Cannery Row: "It has always seemed strange to me, the things we admire in men, kindness and generosity, openness, honesty, understanding and feeling are the concomitants of failure in our system. And those traits we detest, sharpness, greed, acquisitiveness, meanness, egotism and self-interest are the traits of success. And while men admire the quality of the first they love the produce of…
I think the biggest issue is that for the system to succeed, most participants need to display the first list of traits. But for any individual within the system, personal success may be easier to obtain by displaying the second set (though that is not necessarily true, in my experience).
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Thanks for the reference, it looks good. What's the takeaway?
Validation of Nietzsche's ideas in more of a modern, scientific context. Thinking about a person's morality as originating from a person's psychology.