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Does anyone have figures on how much money the US federal government has spent to develop the RISC architecture?
RISC-V originated from 5 year project called Parallel Computing Laboratory (Par Lab) at UC Berkeley. Par Lab received no direct federal funding. It was funded mainly by Intel and Microsoft and State of California.
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The US has a strong commitment to pardoning its war criminals and human rights violators. https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-usa-trump-warcrimes-pardon... This, incidentally, is why it's hard to take seriously the idea that US positioning against China is aimed at genuinely improving human rights and not just using them as rhetorical cover.
Pardoning was the wrong move, but are you honestly putting that upon the same level as over a million placed in concentration camps? The US is not perfect, but what, because of that they can't have legitimate points on human rights on what the CCP is doing?
https://www.businessinsider.com/leaked-chinese-papers-on-mus... : "Xi pushed the party to use the "organs of dictatorship" to move millions of the minority group, Uighur Muslims, into the camps in western China and cited the United States' war on terror following 9/11 for an example of how to limit civil liberties. "
> wants to ensure that universities, governments and companies outside the United States can help develop its open-source technology Read as: > wants to ensure that China... Let me see if I understand this correctly. US tax dollars funded (in part, via UC Berkeley) this technology, and now this organization is moving outside of the US specifically so that it can work with China in ways that the US would not appreciat…
Term 'open-source' license seems to be conveniently left behind in the 'Read as'.
Linux kernel was first funded by the Tax money of a Finland Citizen, the reason everyone can use it incl. large U.S. corporations entirely dependent upon it is because it is under the 'freedom' of open-source license.
RISC-V, is moving to protect the 'freedom' of it's open-source license. If there is anything to feel agitated about it, it is why some entity had to take such drastic action from the so called 'land of the free'.
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The US has a strong commitment to pardoning its war criminals and human rights violators. https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-usa-trump-warcrimes-pardon... This, incidentally, is why it's hard to take seriously the idea that US positioning against China is aimed at genuinely improving human rights and not just using them as rhetorical cover.
>the idea that US positioning against China is aimed at genuinely improving human rights and not just using them as rhetorical cover. You must be saying this in jest, or you have been brainwashed. Without even touching on the interment camps, which are definitely worse than the US prison system; here is demonstrable evidence that the US cares more about global human rights than the Chinese.[1] [1] https://www.hrw.org…
Also I do not subscribe to the view that Democracy is somehow morally superior to other forms of government. Anyone who has read Plutarch, can understand that figures like Pericles can manipulate the minds of the masses and rule as an authoritarian under the guise of being a democrat. The same playbook is being used for thousands of years with the same effect. See Erdogan in Turkey, I don't see him ever outsted from power democratically, aleast not in a long time.
Same reason products with the better advertisment sells better than the better product.
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Ah yes, let's do business without concerns of morality. Make western funded technology available CCP SOE's. After all, they gotta power their "exciting" and "innovative"[1] algorithms with some sort of architecture. Less we miss anyone[2]. [1] https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2019/11/12/chinese-firm... [2]: https://www.theguardian.com/world/video/2019/sep/23/footage-...
Morality is simply "things I like" and "things I don't like". It's not a good basis for policy, especially when moral standards vary significantly between individuals. It's a fool's errand to try to impose your morals on another person as if they were somehow superior (though that arrogance is the foundation of the American psyche). You literally just can't .
>You literally just can't.
Right, which is why we let Hitler exterminate the Jews.
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The signals from the current US administration is pretty clear. It is a government that puts American interest ahead of any other concern. Naturally universities in other western countries are going to have their doubts about cooperating on crucial technology if it is under control by a government which only cares about national interests. Same reason I favor exiting NATO and building a European alliance only. The US…
> The signals from the current US administration is pretty clear. If it was only the current US administration then it would be easier. Didn't the bush administration also had a policy "You're either for us, or against us"? Even in the case the current administration is replaced, it's only 4 or 8 years until they are again replaced by another administration willing to blow up alliances for domestic politics.
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>the idea that US positioning against China is aimed at genuinely improving human rights and not just using them as rhetorical cover. You must be saying this in jest, or you have been brainwashed. Without even touching on the interment camps, which are definitely worse than the US prison system; here is demonstrable evidence that the US cares more about global human rights than the Chinese.[1] [1] https://www.hrw.org…
The United States invaded Iraq and killed hundreds of thousands of Iraqis on a thin pretext. It toppled the government of Libya, leading to years of turmoil and the return of literal slavery. It supported Sunni extremists in Syria that helped tear that country apart. It ran a global kidnapping and torture operation for years. It conducts drone assassinations around the world. When I hear Americans talking about the U…
> wants to ensure that universities, governments and companies outside the United States can help develop its open-source technology Read as: > wants to ensure that China... Let me see if I understand this correctly. US tax dollars funded (in part, via UC Berkeley) this technology, and now this organization is moving outside of the US specifically so that it can work with China in ways that the US would not appreciat…
Both sentiments are pointed in the same direction - more freedom. Also, Blizzard, South Park, NBA are part of popular culture in the west. Cooperation with China is endangering that culture, so you see backlash. Standards related to RISC-V are not part of popular culture and there is no danger of Chinese censorship. There is however danger of USA protectionism. And yes - I can see Americans using microchip intellectu…
What I’m not ok with (and why I think there’s backlash toward the cooperation with China by these companies) is the way the Chinese government treats people.
Harvesting organs from political prisoners and the violence toward protesters isn’t ok. Ever. I don’t care if it’s Trump or Merkel or Xi that’s doing it it’s not ok and that’s not something people should cooperate with.
It is interesting to see Switzerland becoming a technology hub in the post blockchain era.
was there ever a blockchain era? All I ever heard of was the blockchain bubble? Sure it's useful but it's not the end of all traditional exchange and contracts like it's most religious adherents subscribed to.
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This specifically furthers the interests of a ruling class, the Chinese Communist Party. It is explicitly giving the CCP an American funded and developed technology which they can use for further development of racially profiled mass surveillance for the continued genocide of the Uyghurs. This is an awful move.
lol that’s a huge jump from developing open source cpu without backdoors to genocide of Uyghurs.
[1]: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/22/world/asia/china-surveill...