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RISC-V Foundation moving to Switzerland over trade curb fears

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Re: RISC-V Foundation moving to Switzerland over trade curb fears

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Post by drak0n1c »

atoav wrote: post #69
corporate_shi11 wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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You’d probably call me a leftist although I don’t have any group that I would feel at home with. It is quite hard for me to find any idiot in my friends circles that would defend the soviets or sympathize with them. As somebody who studied philosophy and reads quite a lot I can assure you that the amount of left intellectuals who are still defending the SU is equally low — at least in Europe. So what you are postulat…

Minds change over time. Back before the USSR disbanded and their decades of various problems were revealed, there were a sizable number in the US with some sympathies with the Soviet Union (if not for its then-governance, there was at least sympathy for the possibilities and future of the communist country). Even Bernie Sanders decided to have his honeymoon in the Soviet Union to improve relations and find lessons to bring back home.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/inside-bernie-sander...

Re: RISC-V Foundation moving to Switzerland over trade curb fears

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Post by pjmlp »

corporate_shi11 wrote: post #54
eru wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Switzerland has been around as a (relatively) small government democracy for quite a while. There are regular direct democracy polls on spending and taxes.

Switzerland also doesn't have many poor people.

Switzerland does have quite a few poor people, the difference being that someone on the poverty limit in Switzerland still happens to look quite alright from the outside.

The problem is that one cannot just look at income, rather what someone has to pay for as well, and in Switzerland you pay for everything.

I think that many Swiss can relate to this, when I lived there we used to joke that only breathing is free.

Re: RISC-V Foundation moving to Switzerland over trade curb fears

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Post by leereeves »

vkazanov wrote: post #76
leereeves wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

With both Warren and Sanders proposing to tax rich people at levels not seen outside Communist countries, it's hard to believe the left doesn't sympathize with the Soviets, at least pre-Stalin Soviets.

U mean countries like France? :-)

What's the top wealth tax rate in France? 1.5%?

Warren proposed 6%. Sanders proposed 8%.

It's deceptive to suggest that these rates would be similar to European taxes. Rates that high would destroy the wealthy. Sanders even said billionaires should not exist.

Maybe the modern left would be against killing the rich like the Soviets did. (Maybe.) But they clearly hate and want to eliminate private wealth.

Re: RISC-V Foundation moving to Switzerland over trade curb fears

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Post by ahmedalsudani »

jacobwilliamroy wrote: post #68
mikeyouse wrote: post #4

What exactly did people expect to happen with this bizarre trade war? Instead of pressuring 'bad actor' countries with more free trade and something like TPP, levying pointless tariffs was obviously going to drive any joint international groups overseas. Just brainless stuff.

TPP was cancer. Every rich nation in the world profited off of precisely the kind of IP theft which TPP aimed to punish. It was kicking away the ladder which the U.S. U.K. France, South Korea and others had climbed before anyone else could get up it. Liberal economics reeks of colonialism. "As above so below, everything in its rightful place. Let mexico grow avocados and let india make t-shirts and let the chinese bu…

IP enforcement was one provision among many. No deal is perfect.

Re: RISC-V Foundation moving to Switzerland over trade curb fears

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Post by mytailorisrich »

Abishek_Muthian wrote: post #12

I appreciate and welcome this move by RISC-V foundation. With semiconductor industry being used as a major soft power, countries which don't have such power betting on RISC-V[1], it's wise to move to a neutral country. My only gripe being, there aren't many neutral countries which can stand up to powerful militarized nations. Edit: The reason, I mentioned lack of military power of neutral countries is because of the…

No-one is going to invade Switzerland.

A country like the US can invade any country they want. International law is irrelevant. But they can pressure a country like Switzerland without needing to resort to military action, which would be crazy anyway in the case of Switzerland.

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Post by tanilama »

Good move.

Let 'open' stay true to its very meaning. It is a good chance , or may I say the best chance for RISC-V to seize influence, because now the will and capitals are aligned to make an alternative ecosystem that is not controlled by US single handedly.

Re: RISC-V Foundation moving to Switzerland over trade curb fears

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Post by Abishek_Muthian »

pgeorgi wrote: post #80
Abishek_Muthian wrote: post #12

I appreciate and welcome this move by RISC-V foundation. With semiconductor industry being used as a major soft power, countries which don't have such power betting on RISC-V[1], it's wise to move to a neutral country. My only gripe being, there aren't many neutral countries which can stand up to powerful militarized nations. Edit: The reason, I mentioned lack of military power of neutral countries is because of the…

In this case Switzerland seems to be a pretty good choice: compulsory military service, difficult terrain, nuclear power plants (and with them the infrastructure to build the bomb)

Conscription is not as effective as a regular volunteer force. Atomic weapons or other WMD goes against the ethos of neutral countries which traditionally are pro-Human Rights.

But I understand where you are coming at, perhaps it is because major military nations poses A-Bombs. I guess, if they are democratic countries we have no choice but to hope that their citizens can prevent it from getting used; My real worry is the non-democratic/pseudo democratic countries with A-Bombs.

Edit : N-Bomb->A-Bomb.

Re: RISC-V Foundation moving to Switzerland over trade curb fears

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Post by Abishek_Muthian »

mytailorisrich wrote: post #85
Abishek_Muthian wrote: post #12

I appreciate and welcome this move by RISC-V foundation. With semiconductor industry being used as a major soft power, countries which don't have such power betting on RISC-V[1], it's wise to move to a neutral country. My only gripe being, there aren't many neutral countries which can stand up to powerful militarized nations. Edit: The reason, I mentioned lack of military power of neutral countries is because of the…

No-one is going to invade Switzerland. A country like the US can invade any country they want. International law is irrelevant. But they can pressure a country like Switzerland without needing to resort to military action, which would be crazy anyway in the case of Switzerland.

True, especially if U.S. has 'Hague Invasion Act' against a NATO member!

Re: RISC-V Foundation moving to Switzerland over trade curb fears

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Post by kazagistar »

knolax wrote: post #78
aidenn0 wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is no offer of money for votes. In fact, many of the poorest areas of the country are more likely to vote Republican.

I think he's referring to UBI.

UBI also isn't money for votes, its money regardless of votes. I can vote for UBI and lose more in taxes then I gain, and I can vote against it and still benefit. That sounds like about as non corrupt as it gets.

Re: RISC-V Foundation moving to Switzerland over trade curb fears

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Post by tanilama »

nine_zeros wrote: post #47

Great work. Let over politicized countries fight each other while the rest of the world moves ahead. >“The Chinese Communist Party is trying to circumvent our export control system to support national security threats like Huawei - we cannot let it succeed,” Representative Mike Gallagher, a Republican from Wisconsin, told Reuters. I mean, one cannot make this more obvious. The rest of the world really doesn't want to…

Yep

Truth is, no one can stop any one doing anything.

Free market can dissuade your competitors from creating their own supply chain because that won't make economical sense. But once that illusion is gone, the ones that are getting hurt is the current market leaders.

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