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TikTok: Cheerfulness and censorship

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Re: TikTok: Cheerfulness and censorship

#11

It's gonna be interesting to watch TikTok in the next few months. Other large social medias gonna copy what they do (like what Instagram did to SnapChat) will be interesting to see them surviving it

Instagram is already working on this, with their new video editing tool Reels [1].

It'll be very interesting to see if these other big players can catch up though, given TikTok's massive numbers.

[1] https://www.theverge.com/2019/11/12/20960916/instagram-faceb...

Re: TikTok: Cheerfulness and censorship

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post #6

I can't see how TikTik censors more than facebook or most other social platforms. This seems only to be a concern since it's the "other" side (Chinese in this case) doing it. > the search for keywords controversial from the point of view of the Chinese Government [...] did not yield any or only very few fitting content Yeah I could give you a nice list of words that results in an similar results page from Google, You…

Not really. Try rallying up support against Xi Jingpin on TikTok?

Showing non-sexual images of breasts on facebook may or may not work out well: https://www.facebook.com/the.ban.on.breastfeeding/

The sensibilities are different but they exist.

Re: TikTok: Cheerfulness and censorship

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I fail to see why every platform has to become a fucking idealogical battleground. If I’m in the market for a social network myself (HN notwithstanding) I’d probably choose a politics-free one if possible.

Re: TikTok: Cheerfulness and censorship

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post #13

I fail to see why every platform has to become a fucking idealogical battleground. If I’m in the market for a social network myself (HN notwithstanding) I’d probably choose a politics-free one if possible.

There is no such thing as a politics-free network, only one that only allows politics you agree with.

Re: TikTok: Cheerfulness and censorship

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It's gonna be interesting to watch TikTok in the next few months. Other large social medias gonna copy what they do (like what Instagram did to SnapChat) will be interesting to see them surviving it

TikTok has already been surviving it for 3 years. In China the short video battle already happened and Douyin (TikTok) came out the victor. Kuaishou is still around in rural areas and amongst the working class, but Douyin is king.

Twitter has got to be kicking themselves that they had Vine and didn't do anything with it.

Re: TikTok: Cheerfulness and censorship

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post #13

I fail to see why every platform has to become a fucking idealogical battleground. If I’m in the market for a social network myself (HN notwithstanding) I’d probably choose a politics-free one if possible.

There is no such thing as a politics-free network, only one that only allows politics you agree with.

That is false. TikTok is a platform where people upload videos of themselves doing things like lip syncing, dancing, etc. That does not have to turn political at all. Unless you use the good ol' argument that "banning all political discussion is supporting the status quo which is also political"

Re: TikTok: Cheerfulness and censorship

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post #13

I fail to see why every platform has to become a fucking idealogical battleground. If I’m in the market for a social network myself (HN notwithstanding) I’d probably choose a politics-free one if possible.

There is no such thing as a politics-free network, only one that only allows politics you agree with.

Not true. For instance it’s pretty easy to create a programming language forum that bans all off-topic content, including identity politics in programming, workplace politics, etc.

Unless you believe in the bullshit that is the absence of X == automatically siding what whatever X considers its opponent (usually “the establishment” or “the status quo”) at that moment in time.

Re: TikTok: Cheerfulness and censorship

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post #7

TikTok is, as the title says, a social network for cheerfulness and fun. I don't use it, but I can understand they outright ban politics: 1) they avoid becoming the vile cesspool Twitter has become, 2) they avoid being asked by governments around the world to take down posts, 3) they avoid being targeted in propaganda campaigns.

I'm sympathetic to the argument for banning politics outright. However, this would imply making sure that all politics is banned in practice, and not that the platform has the right to selectively ban politics. I'm not convinced tic toc does that.

Re: TikTok: Cheerfulness and censorship

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post #7

TikTok is, as the title says, a social network for cheerfulness and fun. I don't use it, but I can understand they outright ban politics: 1) they avoid becoming the vile cesspool Twitter has become, 2) they avoid being asked by governments around the world to take down posts, 3) they avoid being targeted in propaganda campaigns.

I'm sympathetic to the argument for banning politics outright. However, this would imply making sure that all politics is banned in practice, and not that the platform has the right to selectively ban politics. I'm not convinced tic toc does that.

Yes you have a point. As I've said I don't use it, so I don't know how it goes. What I'm saying is that a politics-free social network is not only possible, but desirable.
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