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Re: CUDA Toolkit Release Notes

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Post by fmajid » Sun, Nov 24, 2019, 8:00 AM UTC

alphagrep12345 wrote: post #11

Why doesn't apple support NVIDIA though? Considering the whole ML and AI community use only NVIDIA GPUs, it sucks that we can't use apple laptops for the same.

Apple wants to force people to use APIs it controls like OpenCL then Metal. The availability of CUDA meant if Apple shipped Macs with nVidia devices, there would be an alternative.

Re: CUDA Toolkit Release Notes

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Post by suyash » Sun, Nov 24, 2019, 8:00 AM UTC

We need a CUDA alternative for non NVIDIA gpu's, specially on a Mac.

Re: CUDA Toolkit Release Notes

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Post by mister_hn » Sun, Nov 24, 2019, 8:21 AM UTC

Fully understandable..anyways none is doing ML on Apple hardware due to ATi Chipsets.. last Apple HW with Nvidia graphic cards are old or running Linux or Windows with Bootcamp anyways

Re: CUDA Toolkit Release Notes

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Post by pvg » Sun, Nov 24, 2019, 8:28 AM UTC

kragen wrote: post #20

alphagrep12345 wrote: post #11

Why doesn't apple support NVIDIA though? Considering the whole ML and AI community use only NVIDIA GPUs, it sucks that we can't use apple laptops for the same.

Apple hates hackers. Didn't the missing Esc key clue you in?

That only flies if Ctrl-[ also enables Nvidia support.

Re: CUDA Toolkit Release Notes

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Post by nevi-me » Sun, Nov 24, 2019, 8:29 AM UTC

suyash wrote: post #22

We need a CUDA alternative for non NVIDIA gpu's, specially on a Mac.

Would this from AMD count? https://rocm.github.io/

Re: CUDA Toolkit Release Notes

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Post by netheril96 » Sun, Nov 24, 2019, 8:33 AM UTC

So nvcc is completely based on clang now?

Re: CUDA Toolkit Release Notes

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Post by Athas » Sun, Nov 24, 2019, 8:36 AM UTC

suyash wrote: post #22

We need a CUDA alternative for non NVIDIA gpu's, specially on a Mac.

OpenCL is decent, and although it's deprecated, it's probably going to continue working for years. It's not as nice as CUDA for direct programming, but don't most people access CUDA through higher-level libraries anyway? You probably would not be able to tell whether those use OpenCL or CUDA behind the scenes.

Re: CUDA Toolkit Release Notes

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Post by Athas » Sun, Nov 24, 2019, 8:39 AM UTC

netheril96 wrote: post #26

So nvcc is completely based on clang now?

It has been for a long time. Only the very earliest versions of CUDA had an nvcc based on Open64.

Re: CUDA Toolkit Release Notes

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Post by vbezhenar » Sun, Nov 24, 2019, 8:56 AM UTC

kragen wrote: post #20

alphagrep12345 wrote: post #11

Why doesn't apple support NVIDIA though? Considering the whole ML and AI community use only NVIDIA GPUs, it sucks that we can't use apple laptops for the same.

Apple hates hackers. Didn't the missing Esc key clue you in?

They added Esc key to the latest Macbook. Do you feel their love now?

Re: CUDA Toolkit Release Notes

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Post by ActorNightly » Sun, Nov 24, 2019, 8:58 AM UTC

alphagrep12345 wrote: post #11

Why doesn't apple support NVIDIA though? Considering the whole ML and AI community use only NVIDIA GPUs, it sucks that we can't use apple laptops for the same.

Why would you do anything compute intensive on laptops that suffer from cooling issues?