Why doesn't apple support NVIDIA though? Considering the whole ML and AI community use only NVIDIA GPUs, it sucks that we can't use apple laptops for the same.
CUDA Toolkit Release Notes
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#12I guess that means we won't be getting a new Webdriver for their graphics cards either :/
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#13mac users can always use AMD's openCL offerings...
I was under the impression OpenCL was deprecated for Mac OS.
Yep, deprecated in 10.14 in favor of Metal. I expect it to be like OpenGL, where the existing functionality will stay around in maintenance mode for years to come but never improved.
https://developer.apple.com/library/archive/documentation/Pe...
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#14Makes sense, given that the underlying drivers only support macOS 10.13 (which is likely considered out-of-support by Apple now)
10.13 support ends September 2020.
True, it does look like Apple provides support for the current and last two releases. 10.12 Sierra got its last (ever) security update at the end of September.
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#15Why doesn't apple support NVIDIA though? Considering the whole ML and AI community use only NVIDIA GPUs, it sucks that we can't use apple laptops for the same.
NVidia didn't want to pay for failing NVidia chips in MacBooks when they had problems with their manufacturing over half a decade ago and since then Apple tries everything to make NVidia's and its customers' life difficult.
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#16They are worth each other. Lock-in should be avoided, both from Apple and Nvidia.
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#17Why doesn't apple support NVIDIA though? Considering the whole ML and AI community use only NVIDIA GPUs, it sucks that we can't use apple laptops for the same.
Tensorflow stopped supporting MacOS w/GPUs a year or two ago. Maybe if you're using Pytorch or some other framework that supports MacOS w/GPU/external gpu... but to my knowledge that doesn't exist/isn't widely used.
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#18Why doesn't apple support NVIDIA though? Considering the whole ML and AI community use only NVIDIA GPUs, it sucks that we can't use apple laptops for the same.
I think for the larger models now it's more likely people are remotely logging into GPU clusters at this point. I don't think it will be that big of a change.
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#19Submitted title was "Nvidia drops support for CUDA on macOS". We changed that for a while to "CUDA 10.2 is the last release to support macOS", which is language from the article itself. Since then someone emailed and asked why the title was like that in light of the discussion at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21617016, so I've reverted to the article's title.
Edit: If the article were more a burying the lede kind of thing, as sometimes happens with corporate press releases, then the original title would be misleading and it would arguably be right to change it. But that seems unlikely here?
Edit: I suppose we could switch the URL to an article like https://gizmodo.com/apple-and-nvidia-are-over-1840015246 if this really is the only story here.
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#20Why doesn't apple support NVIDIA though? Considering the whole ML and AI community use only NVIDIA GPUs, it sucks that we can't use apple laptops for the same.
Apple hates hackers. Didn't the missing Esc key clue you in?