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An update on YC China

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Re: An update on YC China

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Post by jakobmi »

@YC Leadership: The Chinese Article [1] reads synonymously to: YC China was RENAMED, not aborted. That's highly different from your English statement. LOL: even the website ycchina.com redirects to MiraclePlus. http://www.ycchina.com/

They even have the YC logo on their website and claim to have funded Airbnb, Dropbox etc. Be careful to read their whole website. This whole website of MiracleMinus is extremely dishonest. I would be very careful not to be connected too much to dishonest and lack-of-integrity people like Qi.

[1] https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/SnSsli_ZGo0yI58YD-ddaw

Re: An update on YC China

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Post by undefined3840 »

bg4 wrote: post #248
undefined3840 wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s understandable it’s a touchy subject. Why piss off China if you don’t have to? Only something to lose and nothing to gain. Also this story of a Chinese Stanford professor/investor’s “suicide” last year is quite the story. There’s a potential safety issue here too. https://www.forbes.com/sites/arthurherman/2018/12/13/a-death...

> It’s understandable it’s a touchy subject. Why piss off China if you don’t have to? Only something to lose and nothing to gain. I know right? I mean, it's not my liver that's being harvested...

You act like that doesn’t happen here...I just read a story in the LA times on how organs are being harvested from the recently deceased before a proper investigation can take place

Re: An update on YC China

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Post by avocado4 »

northfoxz wrote: post #235

My observation is that Qi used the YC brand to help launch his MiraclePlus. After that they part ways. The first batch of startups are very different from regular YC companies. https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/KdfV4hF4qz8Ti1XL0i_S3A

So form a partnership with US firm, extract IP and know-how, launch a clone in China, and part ways. Sounds like a standard approach.

Re: An update on YC China

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Post by dang »

radmuzom wrote: post #261
dang wrote: post #216

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your account has been using HN primarily for nationalistic and political battle. That's not allowed here, because it destroys the curiosity this site is supposed to be for. We ban accounts that keep doing this, so please don't keep doing this. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comme...

Strange hypocrisy from a moderator. You do not seem to have a problem with American nationalist dogs.

That's sample bias. We moderate comments that are nationalistically aggressive regardless of what nation the commenter has a problem with.

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As for "dogs"...please be better than that here.

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Re: An update on YC China

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Post by bigpumpkin »

jakobmi wrote: post #281

@YC Leadership: The Chinese Article [1] reads synonymously to: YC China was RENAMED, not aborted. That's highly different from your English statement. LOL: even the website ycchina.com redirects to MiraclePlus. http://www.ycchina.com/ They even have the YC logo on their website and claim to have funded Airbnb, Dropbox etc. Be careful to read their whole website. This whole website of MiracleMinus is extremely dishone…

"they even have the YC logo on their website and claim to have funded Airbnb, Dropbox etc. "

YC的创业方法论培养了大量例如Airbnb，Stripe, Dropbox等的明星企业。经过了14年的实战考验，充分证明了其有效性。在中国，我们将YC创业方法论落实到本地企业中，用来服务我们的初创公司。

" YC's entrepreneurial methodology has produced a number of star companies such as Airbnb, Stripe, Dropbox and more. After 14 years of practical tests, it has fully proved its effectiveness. In China, we implement the YC entrepreneurial methodology into local companies to serve our startups."

Re: An update on YC China

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Post by avocado4 »

throwaway423342 wrote: post #247
nightsd01 wrote: post #245

China’s best tech is mostly just stolen American tech so I can understand why they’d want to focus on US startups.

This is true 5 years ago. Things have changed.

People keep saying that, but I don't really buy it. Scanning barcodes isn't really necessary when you have everybody with a credit card and every local merchant accepts NFC payment. Everybody using crappy unencrypted JS-based WeChat mini-programs instead of an app ecosystem is not an innovation but rather a way to lock and monitor the entire population with no privacy. Same goes for police-state facial recognition.

Re: An update on YC China

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Post by dang »

refrigerator wrote: post #267
iooi wrote: post #44

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They probably have a significant investment from Chinese LPs. It could put those investors in a very awkward situation if YC was more explicit with their statement -- we've all seen how childishly defensive the Chinese government can get.

afaik YC doesn't have any LPs

YC has LPs. As far as I know they're all in the US. (Edit: yup, except one in the UK.)

Re: An update on YC China

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Post by icelancer »

AJ007 wrote: post #203
jessewmc wrote: post #11

Strange optics not to mention the elephant in the room. I could see them hitting some roadblocks and wanting to try again to get into China, but that would be a reasonable thing to come out and say. It also would be reasonable to come out and say they've changed their minds due to political climate or some other risks. Instead its... the new guy is busy?

I had to dig up one of my old comments about YC China, because I specifically recall this one. I think the issue isn't one elephant in the room, it is elephants. My comment from August 15, 2018: "I would like to see a statement that YC China will not discriminate based on ethnicity, gender, religion, or sexual orientation and more importantly will not support startups which create technology which make doing so easie…

The idea that this kind of equality is going to be a thing in China is putting the cart about 200 miles ahead of the horse.

Re: An update on YC China

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Post by icelancer »

tptacek wrote: post #149
ivalm wrote: post #86

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Totalitarian actions of the regime primarily against Muslim minorities (Uighurs), including concentration camps with >1M people.

Yeah, no, I've read a newspaper in the last year. What exactly does that have to do with YC? They're withdrawing from China.

The Chinese statement reads more like it is being renamed.

Re: An update on YC China

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Post by dang »

baby wrote: post #256
spectramax wrote: post #239

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> The Chinese government is one thing. But "the Chinese way" is another thing. And "the Chinese way" actually underlines how the Chinese society works and how the Chinese government functions. "The Chinese Way" is a cop out, it points out the cultural differences between the West and China, but that does not change the fundamentals of political ideologies. Fascist and authoritarian regimes, all, justify their actions…

The chinese way is also about selfishness and growth at all human cost.

Please don't cross into nationalistic or ethnic slurs.

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