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An update on YC China

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Re: An update on YC China

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Post by killface »

criddell wrote: post #162
iooi wrote: post #44

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They probably have a significant investment from Chinese LPs. It could put those investors in a very awkward situation if YC was more explicit with their statement -- we've all seen how childishly defensive the Chinese government can get.

That money isn't that important. History isn't going to look back and think that YCombinator should have done more to look out for the wealth Chinese investors.

with how much love VCs get here, i'm pretty sure that's an accurate sentiment.

Re: An update on YC China

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Post by billfruit »

pcbro141 wrote: post #62
paulddraper wrote: post #46

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What exactly is the elephant in the room? U.S. tariffs? Honk Kong unrest? IP violations?

The ~1 million Uighurs the Chinese government has in concentration camps. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/11/16/world/asia/ch...

The international community barely cares about what India is similarly doing in Kashmir, despite India being a democracy. In effect the most fundamental right in a democracy, the right to habeas corpus is suspended there.

There is much politically informed anti-China coverage in the MSM, so it is hard to take reports on China from them without much skepticism. Even in Hong Kong it is on display that the police are largely acting with restraint similar to what a western police force might behave, it is the protesters who have been violent.

Re: An update on YC China

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Post by AJ007 »

jessewmc wrote: post #11

Strange optics not to mention the elephant in the room. I could see them hitting some roadblocks and wanting to try again to get into China, but that would be a reasonable thing to come out and say. It also would be reasonable to come out and say they've changed their minds due to political climate or some other risks. Instead its... the new guy is busy?

I had to dig up one of my old comments about YC China, because I specifically recall this one. I think the issue isn't one elephant in the room, it is elephants.

My comment from August 15, 2018:

"I would like to see a statement that YC China will not discriminate based on ethnicity, gender, religion, or sexual orientation and more importantly will not support startups which create technology which make doing so easier."

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17765394

* and this is not meant to exonerate US startups or hold them to another standard

Re: An update on YC China

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Post by killface »

tomnipotent wrote: post #172
peteretep wrote: post #145

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You appear to be deeply misinformed about what the term McCarthyism means.

Mc·Car·thy·ism: "A campaign or practice that endorses the use of unfair allegations and investigations." No, he's not deeply misinformed. Perfect example is the ridiculous spying bullshit that SuperMicro was accused of earlier this year.

get back to beijing with the report, let us know what new marching orders are.

Re: An update on YC China

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Post by Phillipharryt »

mrobot wrote: post #198
tomc1985 wrote: post #191

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Fighting the good fight to maintain your social credit score, eh?

There is so much misinformation regarding China. China helps all sorts of countries against western aggression. I support socialist projects like China and do not support a straight "free market" capitalist system. I like that they have state owned enterprises. I do not support the Hong Kong terrorists and really no one in the international left does.

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Re: An update on YC China

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Post by fiblye »

erikpukinskis wrote: post #185
fiblye wrote: post #167

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I don’t think any major business in the world cares about this. They only care about things that affect their own revenue streams, and the average consumer isn’t boycotting companies for not doing anything about it. Seriously. Show me one major corporation that cited this as a reason for pulling out of China. I’m not justifying the actions—I’m saying western industries don’t care about genocide. Because they don’t.

That’s a tautology. Major businesses can’t care about anything else. But major businesses aren’t the whole economy. Just a part.

Loads of companies make political and social statements all the time. Whether it come to gay rights, protesting censorship, etc. None have said anything about the issues in Xinjiang.

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Post by dang »

NeoBasilisk wrote: post #200
mrobot wrote: post #186

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Re: An update on YC China

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Post by dang »

tomc1985 wrote: post #191
mrobot wrote: post #186

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Fighting the good fight to maintain your social credit score, eh?

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Re: An update on YC China

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Post by killface »

ilyaeck wrote: post #196
new_realist wrote: post #169

I applaud this move. Given the recent history of actions by the Chinese government, investment in China is not ethical.

I doubt it's about ethic, it's about the ability to protect your investment on foreign turf, in the current climate.

yep, yc can't capture the patents if there's no patent system in place.

Re: An update on YC China

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Post by dang »

Phillipharryt wrote: post #205
mrobot wrote: post #198

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is so much misinformation regarding China. China helps all sorts of countries against western aggression. I support socialist projects like China and do not support a straight "free market" capitalist system. I like that they have state owned enterprises. I do not support the Hong Kong terrorists and really no one in the international left does.

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Please don't make a bad thread worse.
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