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Apple’s iPhone Software Shakeup After Buggy iOS 13 Debut

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Re: Apple’s iPhone Software Shakeup After Buggy iOS 13 Debut

#91
Safari, at least on the iPad, is so incredibly buggy in iOS 13 that it’s practically unusable. Not to mention the ridiculous system where it opens new Safari windows, not tabs, and then doesn’t give me any option to close them. And when Safari bugs out, and I have to force close it, it loses every single one of the tabs I have open, and it didn’t do any of this garbage before iOS 13.

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#92

13 was the worst iOS release I can remember. Photos would crash from scrolling too fast. Mail wouldn't check for new messages for a whole day. Safari blank screens. Replying to messages in Mail was a 50/50 proposition. The phone would freeze for 5-10 seconds more than it ever did before. All kinds of visual artifacts like text appearing where it shouldn't, UI elements getting orphaned and just floating around, effect…

Also photo sync launched COMPLETELY broken. Do you have >10k photos in your library you want to sync? Tough luck. So far they've fixed photo sync up to ~20k photos or so but now absolutely zero videos will sync. "include videos" just doesn't work.

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#93

I'm one of the most staunch Apple supporters but even I must admit that since WWDC 2019, I have spent more time fighting Apple's bugs than actually using any of the new features...or the old features that used to work flawlessly (like iTunes/Music.) Not just on the user side, but the developer end as well. Perfectly valid code which used to work up till Xcode 11.1 throws errors inside the Swift runtime or toolchain o…

Hate to break it to you but iTunes never worked flawlessly. It's always been a smoldering tire-fire.

but Music has weird behavior that didn't happen in the last few incarnations of iTunes:

• Randomly failing to download or not allowing me to download purchases or Apple Music songs that I previously added to my library.

• Outright deleting downloads!! without any explanation!

• Duplicating downloads, and creating copies of playlists with differences. [0]

• Being more aggressive with DRM checks: Once, I had logged into my Apple Music account, then a few hours later I had to turn off my WiFi. It demanded me to connect so my computer could be authorized and wouldn't let me play the downloads. Same with Books.

[0] https://i.imgur.com/qNQ9oJI.png

Re: Apple’s iPhone Software Shakeup After Buggy iOS 13 Debut

#94
post #87

It's almost like Apple iOS/macOS and Microsoft Windows 10 are competing with each other, to see how fast they can push out buggy software upgrades and skimp on quality assurance. The grass is greener on neither side.

How about other pastures, like Android or Linux?

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#95
post #89

I'm one of the most staunch Apple supporters but even I must admit that since WWDC 2019, I have spent more time fighting Apple's bugs than actually using any of the new features...or the old features that used to work flawlessly (like iTunes/Music.) Not just on the user side, but the developer end as well. Perfectly valid code which used to work up till Xcode 11.1 throws errors inside the Swift runtime or toolchain o…

I’m with you. I’ve been saying more and more that if Apple can’t stay strong I don’t really like the alternatives. OSX and iOS were so nice together a few years back. Now they’re out of step and the design and quality aren’t strong. I don’t want Windows, Chromebooks or Android. If not Apple... (Love Linux, use Linux, but it’s not providing what I get from macOS.)

Yes, I might begin preparing a Linux machine for the end times.

Re: Apple’s iPhone Software Shakeup After Buggy iOS 13 Debut

#96

Safari, at least on the iPad, is so incredibly buggy in iOS 13 that it’s practically unusable. Not to mention the ridiculous system where it opens new Safari windows, not tabs, and then doesn’t give me any option to close them. And when Safari bugs out, and I have to force close it, it loses every single one of the tabs I have open, and it didn’t do any of this garbage before iOS 13.

> Not to mention the ridiculous system where it opens new Safari windows, not tabs, and then doesn’t give me any option to close them. And when Safari bugs out, and I have to force close it, it loses every single one of the tabs I have open

That’s very strange; none of these things should be happening. Actually, there are explicit checks to make sure that it doesn’t happen. Is there anything in particular you’re doing that might be triggering this?

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#97

There have been glaring bugs/issues lasting ages in both MacOS and iOS. For years apple mail on iOS would always show 1 unread message in "all mail" for gmail. On my iPhone 11 pro (and the 6S i had before it) the camera app will sometimes only show a black screen and a freaking reboot is needed to get it working again. I've missed out on many moments with my toddler because of that. Multi-monitor support was so good…

For years I've described bugs in Apple's iPhone apps and have been told "it's just me" or to expect long delays between actions.

Or that constant updates and logging in are good things.

I'm no fanboy so it's easy to spot flaws. It blows my mind how quick people are to defend poor quality.

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#98
post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So one of the issues is that Apple lives on their own tools, so when critical system components are broken nobody can get work done. But ideally they'd actually fix the bugs and try to keep the daily builds livable rather than trying to sweep the issues under the rug…

The problem seems to be there are so many bugs it becomes impossible to tell what caused what. Also, mixing unfinished features with known bugs in there might be a waste of time.

This reads like "our entire development process is borked. We should just hire 1000 cats because we can't control ourselves any better."

Re: Apple’s iPhone Software Shakeup After Buggy iOS 13 Debut

#100

I'm one of the most staunch Apple supporters but even I must admit that since WWDC 2019, I have spent more time fighting Apple's bugs than actually using any of the new features...or the old features that used to work flawlessly (like iTunes/Music.) Not just on the user side, but the developer end as well. Perfectly valid code which used to work up till Xcode 11.1 throws errors inside the Swift runtime or toolchain o…

Hate to break it to you but iTunes never worked flawlessly. It's always been a smoldering tire-fire.

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