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Apple has locked me out of my developer account

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Re: Apple has locked me out of my developer account

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It feels like I'm living in a bizarre world where this event is being parsed by so many people as "Apple can't lock any account they want, force them to apologize!", when what people should be saying is "Wow, monolithic software pipelines controlled by a corporation sure are bad and this is just one of many entirely predictable consequences"

To be fair, having a contract terminated by violating it isn't really the result of "monolithic software pipelines controlled by a corporation".

Re: Apple has locked me out of my developer account

#73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple's previously demonstrated their vindictiveness in the official iOS developer guidelines 5 years ago - 'If you run to the press and trash us, it never helps.' https://web.archive.org/web/20141226094343/https://developer...

How is that vindictive? It's true. What is the press going to do to help with an approval? That almost always should be a last resort.

Since it sometimes does help, "it never helps" is false. Lying is usually considered a bad manner.

Re: Apple has locked me out of my developer account

#74
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Brutal, the frustration is palpable. Forgive my mobile engineering ignorance, but does developing on Android pose similar risks or is control less centralized to Google?

It's worse on android. You'll lose access to every google account you have (email, photos, drive) and if you circumvent by creating a new account and are caught then you will be banned again as well as all of the accounts that are associated with the new account. This could potentially destroy an entire business if they hire a banned individual and get their entire company banned because of it.

But you don't actually need any access to Google's stuff to develop for Android, so Google can't lock you out and destroy your business. Google can just cause a lot of inconvenience.

Re: Apple has locked me out of my developer account

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post #8

Brutal, the frustration is palpable. Forgive my mobile engineering ignorance, but does developing on Android pose similar risks or is control less centralized to Google?

It's worse on android. You'll lose access to every google account you have (email, photos, drive) and if you circumvent by creating a new account and are caught then you will be banned again as well as all of the accounts that are associated with the new account. This could potentially destroy an entire business if they hire a banned individual and get their entire company banned because of it.

Can you cite any real world examples of this happening?

Re: Apple has locked me out of my developer account

#76

> I’m just an indie developer trying to make good products. Apple should separate Rambo's software development from his reporting rather than retaliate against him, if that is indeed what is happening, but it is a little disingenuous for him to make the above claim. Rambo reverse engineers Apple products and publishes findings on 9to5Mac.com, in particular future product references that have slipped prematurely into…

I have no clue about what terms we sign when we sign up to the developer account but I assume there is some clause about about what they did.

I’d assume they know this might be the cause and by leaving that out of the blog post, I feel like it’s a bit dishonest. Just tell it how it is.

“I caused a bunch of bad PR for Apple back in the days, wonder if that could be the reason for my account being shadow-banned?”

Not saying apple is doing the right thing here though. They should be honest too!

Re: Apple has locked me out of my developer account

#77
post #15

Because it's not mentioned in the article but could be hint on why this happened (could also be entirely irrelevant). It's the guy who brought us a bunch of early iOS 13 leaks among other things: https://www.hackingwithswift.com/articles/164/interview-guil...

So he violated the developer agreements and now is complaining that his developer account is suspended? How is that Apple's fault? Considering the suspension emails and other info are automated, it's likely that he missed them or they went into his spam somehow.

Even if they did warn him by automated email, when he finally got through to them it would be much more professional to say that he broke the agreement and that's the reason than string him along

Re: Apple has locked me out of my developer account

#78
post #14

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If anything the threat to Android developers is much worse, because of Google's habit of banning entire google accounts for any infraction. Recently, hundreds of people had their entire Google accounts banned (with that ban upheld on appeal) because they were sending a lot of emotes (By request!) to a streamer's chat. These people lost everything. Emails. Everything in their Google Drive. Over totally normal behaviou…

That's a crazy incentive to split your information across multiple services. These read like horror stories. I'd be in so much trouble if I got locked out of my google accounts.

Yes, that case was a final wake-up call for me to start migrating as much as I can away from Google. Phone is the hardest part - I do like Android much more than iOS, but the risk of getting randomly banned by some deep neural net without any recourse is something that I can't accept anymore.

Re: Apple has locked me out of my developer account

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post #61
post #33

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Actually this makes me wonder if in 20 years you become unemployable if you had your account banned for whatever reason.

I'm pretty sure that already in 2019 losing a linkedin accout might have serious effect on your career. Not completely unemployable, of course but this could have significant impact in some industries

I don't think this is true at all, or at least not outside of certain niches. I deleted my LinkedIn account years ago, and doing that had exactly no discernable impact on my career.

Re: Apple has locked me out of my developer account

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post #61
post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Actually this makes me wonder if in 20 years you become unemployable if you had your account banned for whatever reason.

I'm pretty sure that already in 2019 losing a linkedin accout might have serious effect on your career. Not completely unemployable, of course but this could have significant impact in some industries

It means I'd stop getting bothered by clueless recruiters multiple times per day, which can only be a net benefit.
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