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Apple has locked me out of my developer account

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Re: Apple has locked me out of my developer account

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post #42

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> And he’s successful: he leaked marketing images for Apple Watch Series 4, he found iPhone X glyphs showing the notch, and more. Presumably in violation of the developer program's NDA.

> Presumably in violation of the developer program's NDA. Even if that seems likely doing all that without a "real" full locking of the account and an email seems kind of odd.

Shadowbanning is an effective technique, so it can be intentional.

Re: Apple has locked me out of my developer account

#53
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If anything the threat to Android developers is much worse, because of Google's habit of banning entire google accounts for any infraction. Recently, hundreds of people had their entire Google accounts banned (with that ban upheld on appeal) because they were sending a lot of emotes (By request!) to a streamer's chat. These people lost everything. Emails. Everything in their Google Drive. Over totally normal behaviou…

That's a crazy incentive to split your information across multiple services. These read like horror stories. I'd be in so much trouble if I got locked out of my google accounts.

> I'd be in so much trouble if I got locked out of my google accounts.

I’d say then it’s time to start migrating everything to any kind of trustworthy entity. Google is the opposite as they’ve shown time and time again.

Re: Apple has locked me out of my developer account

#54
post #15

Because it's not mentioned in the article but could be hint on why this happened (could also be entirely irrelevant). It's the guy who brought us a bunch of early iOS 13 leaks among other things: https://www.hackingwithswift.com/articles/164/interview-guil...

> And he’s successful: he leaked marketing images for Apple Watch Series 4, he found iPhone X glyphs showing the notch, and more. Presumably in violation of the developer program's NDA.

Here the section of the Apple Dev Agreement if anyone is interested:

4. Confidentiality. Except as otherwise set forth herein, you agree that any Apple prerelease software, services, and/or hardware (including related documentation and materials) provided to you as an Apple Developer (“Pre-Release Materials”) and any information disclosed by Apple to you in connection with Apple Events will be considered and referred to as “Apple Confidential Information”.

Notwithstanding the foregoing, Apple Confidential Information will not include: (a) information that is generally and legitimately available to the public through no fault or breach of yours; (b) information that is generally made available to the public by Apple; (c) information that is independently developed by you without the use of any Apple Confidential Information; (d) information that was rightfully obtained from a third party who had the right to transfer or disclose it to you without limitation; or (e) any third party software and/or documentation provided to you by Apple and accompanied by licensing terms that do not impose confidentiality obligations on the use or disclosure of such software and/or documentation. Further, Apple agrees that you will not be bound by the foregoing confidentiality terms with regard to technical information about Apple prerelease software, services and/or hardware disclosed by Apple at WWDC (Apple’s Worldwide Developers Conference), except that you may not post screen shots of, write public reviews of, or redistribute any such materials.

https://developer.apple.com/terms/apple-developer-agreement/...

Re: Apple has locked me out of my developer account

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post #15

Because it's not mentioned in the article but could be hint on why this happened (could also be entirely irrelevant). It's the guy who brought us a bunch of early iOS 13 leaks among other things: https://www.hackingwithswift.com/articles/164/interview-guil...

So he violated the developer agreements and now is complaining that his developer account is suspended?

How is that Apple's fault? Considering the suspension emails and other info are automated, it's likely that he missed them or they went into his spam somehow.

Re: Apple has locked me out of my developer account

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If that's the reason shouldn't Apple have warned/informed him by now?

The Apple Developer Agreement states: > Your rights under this license to use and access the Content will terminate automatically without notice from Apple if you fail to comply with any of these provisions.

> More recently, I tried calling again and got to talk with a supervisor, who said I would be getting an e-mail with instructions to get my access restored.

A supervisor shouldn't/wouldn't string him along in this situation

Re: Apple has locked me out of my developer account

#57
post #15

Because it's not mentioned in the article but could be hint on why this happened (could also be entirely irrelevant). It's the guy who brought us a bunch of early iOS 13 leaks among other things: https://www.hackingwithswift.com/articles/164/interview-guil...

> And he’s successful: he leaked marketing images for Apple Watch Series 4, he found iPhone X glyphs showing the notch, and more. Presumably in violation of the developer program's NDA.

Then why not just say so in all his support calls? "You've violated the NDA, so we've disabled your account permanently." Now you have a clear reason and a clear violation. Apple gate keepers get to show their insane dominance over all parts computing on their hardware.

Personally I hate this new move towards Apple/Microsoft/Google being gatekeepers for everything that can run on a machine. It's fucking bullshit.

Re: Apple has locked me out of my developer account

#58
post #48

Notwithstanding that this developer was also a journalist using his access to beta software to learn about upcoming announcements before Apple wanted them announced, I have to wonder how suspending his developer account without any explanation isn’t grounds for a breach of contract lawsuit. If they told him right from the start that he was booted for violating NDA or even just for pissing off their marketing team tha…

The Apple Developer Agreement states: > Your rights under this license to use and access the Content will terminate automatically without notice from Apple if you fail to comply with any of these provisions.

They also state that it's against the agreement to share pre-released information.

There's absolutely no grounds for someone to complain here.

Re: Apple has locked me out of my developer account

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post #15

Because it's not mentioned in the article but could be hint on why this happened (could also be entirely irrelevant). It's the guy who brought us a bunch of early iOS 13 leaks among other things: https://www.hackingwithswift.com/articles/164/interview-guil...

Apple's previously demonstrated their vindictiveness in the official iOS developer guidelines 5 years ago - 'If you run to the press and trash us, it never helps.' https://web.archive.org/web/20141226094343/https://developer...

How is that vindictive? It's true. What is the press going to do to help with an approval? That almost always should be a last resort.

Re: Apple has locked me out of my developer account

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It's worse on android. You'll lose access to every google account you have (email, photos, drive) and if you circumvent by creating a new account and are caught then you will be banned again as well as all of the accounts that are associated with the new account. This could potentially destroy an entire business if they hire a banned individual and get their entire company banned because of it.

Actually this makes me wonder if in 20 years you become unemployable if you had your account banned for whatever reason.

Possibly. Government agencies (Australia most recently) are starting to require citizens to use e-mail addresses from "trusted" partners. Google is one of those partners.
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