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We ‘may’ have discovered a potential remedy for tinnitus

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Re: We ‘may’ have discovered a potential remedy for tinnitus

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This reminds me of the technique that went viral via Reddit a couple of years ago: https://lifehacker.com/this-weird-trick-might-give-you-brief... I don't suffer from tinnitus, but I know people who do and some of them have said that this helped them.

this sounds exactly like what the linked product does. applies cranial vibration behind the ears.

Re: We ‘may’ have discovered a potential remedy for tinnitus

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Capitalism and human rights have nothing to do with each other. There are capitalist nations, such as Denmark or the US, which have pretty decent human rights for their own citizens at least. And there are other capitalist nations, such as China or the USSR, which have very bad track records on human rights. And no, state capitalism, such as you can find in China or the USSR, is not socialism or communism, any more t…

I know there are capitalist nations which have weak human rights. But are there any non-capitalist nations which have strong human rights?

There haven't really been non-capitalist functioning societies for a century I think. There have been short-lived experiments that quickly collapsed into either authoritarianism, war, or back to capitalism.

However, if you accept one of these short-lived societies - the very early bolshevik/Soviet regime, immediately after the revolution and before Lenin assumed complete control, was the first nation in the world to recognize the rights of gays to a normal life, and had some other very high-minded rights for its citizens. Of course, that very quickly ended and became one of the most vicious regimes in history...

If you look at older societies, the Haudenosaunee (Iroquois confederacy) in North America actually inspired some of the ideas of the US constitution. I also think a place like Athens had relatively strong human rights, if we ignore their practice of slavery and treatment of women.

By the way, when I say non-capitalist society, I am thinking of a society where the majority of the population is not working for a wage, and where most of the land and business is not owned by a small group of people ('the 0.1 percent' in the US, the party leadership in China or USSR).

Re: We ‘may’ have discovered a potential remedy for tinnitus

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Sure, you shouldn't expect to cuddle the speakers - but I go to live shows in small venues where I'm trying to dig myself into the wall at the furthest point from the speakers because it's too loud. They just need to turn it down.

I'd love to go to a concert for audiophiles - no distortion at all, just loud clear music. There's no need for it to be so stupendously loud, especially if the audience is able to shut the fuck up and actually listen.

I don’t think the volume is necessarily related to the amount of ‘distortion’ or how ‘audiophile’ the sound is. Some nightclubs have pretty incredibly clear sound but still require hearing protection to be safe. An acoustic big band can damage your hearing just fine if you are close enough.

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I would urge anyone that suffers from tinnitus to get their hearing checked if they haven't already. Getting hearing aids has given me significant relief from tinnitus and if my hearing aid battery dies the tinnitus comes back fairly quickly. It's as if my ear is trying to compensate for the lack of sound. Of course, there are multiple reasons for tinnitus to occur so your mileage may very, but it's absolutely worth…

how does a hearing aid correct for tinnitis? I have permanent though currently modest hearing damage and persistent tinnitis of several different sounds at the same time. it's clear I'm going to have a hearing aid in the coming years as my dad does also, even though unlike me, and he was not a drummer that stood next to speakers in clubs, but he doesn't have the tinnitus.

It amplifies the ambient sound so it drowns the tinnitus more.

Re: We ‘may’ have discovered a potential remedy for tinnitus

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I had a ringing for a weekend and found and used this extensively https://github.com/generalfuzz/acrn I remember it being after some loud event. But I honestly can't remember. It went away. But it might not have been tinnitus and just an ear infection. Or it might have helped, I'm just one sample size.

Interesting. It seems my tinnitus is around freq 8200. I'll give this tool a go when I'm in a more quiet environment.

Can you update and tell us what happened ?

Re: We ‘may’ have discovered a potential remedy for tinnitus

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At least where I am legislation already exists. What I'm puzzled by is why it doesn't seem to be policed at all, and why nobody seems to care. When rivers, soil or the air are being visibly produced we at least get some public reactions. For some reason for sound we don't perceive it the same way.

a real law would be based on measurement, not perception.

The law is based on measurement of course. It's our lack of reaction to the non-following of the law that's the perception issue.

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Yea, I second this. I had my hearing tested and the results came out "very good." I talked with the doctor and she basically said that what is most likely happening with me is that I have "better" hearing than most and this is what is making it difficult to hear. She said what is probably happening is that I hear a lot of ranges outside the test window and/or I just hear the lower background noises better than I hear…

This sounds like me; I seem to have great hearing (I can still hear those "mosquito" devices used to annoy teenagers even though I'm over 40), but I have a hard time understanding human speech when there's a lot of ambient noise. Noisy restaurants are very unpleasant for me, and I'm constantly asking people to repeat themselves.

I had that experience after attending an overly loud concert a couple months ago - had a much easier time hearing the cacophony of noise in the cafe than I did the person I was supposed to be having lunch with. Got a hearing test and learned I have better than average hearing for a person in his 30s, but there's no baseline since I hadn't been tested as an adult before.

Still haven't figured out if the concert gave me tinnitus, or if the fright of it has made me hyperaware of aural sensations and less tolerant of what I considered "normal" before.

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There are many calls for personal responsibility here. But I think the average person is not making a choice to sustain permanent hearing damage – most people don't know the risks. I used to own a decible meter. I brought it to a movie theater (large chain) and found sustained volume of 100+ decibels. It was physically painful. I was the only customer who complained to the theater. I asked what sound level they inten…

I haven't attended a movie theater for the last five years for this very reason. I don't think the average person has a clue as to the damage being inflicted on their ears when they go to the movies and I believe the number of tinnitus cases in the U.S. will skyrocket in the years ahead, not only from going to the movies but from all the other "noise pollution" we're subject to on a daily basis.

Ahhh I think my main problem is turning my headphones up to hear podcasts over the train/BART!

Re: We ‘may’ have discovered a potential remedy for tinnitus

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Now to wait 5-8 years for an FDA-approved medical device, which will cost $3000. I wonder if you could achieve the same effect with a vibrating massager? Sticking a repurposed cellphone vibrator motor in an elastic band, like the North Paw, also sounds like it would have potential. https://sensebridge.net/projects/northpaw/

Just releasing what frequency they're using would be extremely helpful. For sea sickness some companies offer a wrist band with a pea sized piece of plastic on them to (supposedly) stimulate a nerve in your wrist. I do not think that they require regulation. I can see a situation where these devices could be sold for sea sickness purposes with little to no regulation. Vibrating motors are a pretty easy device to get…

If they're trying to do (and recruit funding for) novel research on motion sickness, they might be reluctant to describe how to knock-off their own hardware before they have anything to sell.
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