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We ‘may’ have discovered a potential remedy for tinnitus

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Re: We ‘may’ have discovered a potential remedy for tinnitus

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Post by giggles_giggles »

debatem1 wrote: post #162
lazyasciiart wrote: post #155

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure, you shouldn't expect to cuddle the speakers - but I go to live shows in small venues where I'm trying to dig myself into the wall at the furthest point from the speakers because it's too loud. They just need to turn it down.

You should probably try larger venues, where reason #3 is on your side. The problem with small venues is that often you really need a lot of volume on guitars, vocals, etc to get the mix right with the drums, and then there isn't any space to soak up that energy. Instead it winds up reflecting off the walls and causing havoc, in addition to just being loud as hell. Of course, that's not to say that there aren't bands…

Or just go to a better venue with decent mixing. I've been to rock shows in small venues that were at a reasonable volume, believe it or not.

Re: We ‘may’ have discovered a potential remedy for tinnitus

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Post by modeless »

I am super excited about the motion sickness application of this. My wife gets carsick and it is a source of tension in our relationship because it makes her reluctant to travel. I wish they would start selling these already. I heard about it last year but it seems that they are slow to market.

Re: We ‘may’ have discovered a potential remedy for tinnitus

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Post by reeddavid »

There are many calls for personal responsibility here. But I think the average person is not making a choice to sustain permanent hearing damage – most people don't know the risks.

I used to own a decible meter. I brought it to a movie theater (large chain) and found sustained volume of 100+ decibels. It was physically painful. I was the only customer who complained to the theater. I asked what sound level they intended to set the movie to. They told me it's up to the projectionist, who sets the volume knob in the booth based on no measurement or preset.

There's a lot of real harm being done, and I would like to see at the very least some basic informative disclosure. And operators should be held responsible for creating dangerous conditions that are not disclosed or agreed to by customers. If people want to sustain hearing damage for a night of enjoyment, they should do so only willingly (and therefore knowingly).

I'm very keen to protect my own hearing, so I carry musician's earplugs (reduces volume without sounding muffled) and wear them often – not just at obviously loud places like concerts, but in common situations like loud restaurants.

Re: We ‘may’ have discovered a potential remedy for tinnitus

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Post by goda90 »

reeddavid wrote: post #233

There are many calls for personal responsibility here. But I think the average person is not making a choice to sustain permanent hearing damage – most people don't know the risks. I used to own a decible meter. I brought it to a movie theater (large chain) and found sustained volume of 100+ decibels. It was physically painful. I was the only customer who complained to the theater. I asked what sound level they inten…

Do you know how these musician's earplugs work? I imagine instead of just blocking vibrating air like regular earplugs, it must be trying to dissipate the sound waves a bit. Is that even possible across the whole range of sound?

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Post by tylercubell »

mettamage wrote: post #20

I wrote this relatively recently in another comment. I think it applies here: I have tinnitus. I got it from going out too much. I wasn't the biggest party-hardy individual, but there were moments where I went out quite a bit. During that time I lived in Amsterdam and loved parties for: music, social experimentation and doing whatever. I wasn't too much into the drugs/alcohol thing. I think during my 'going out phase…

I also have tinnitus from chronic ear infections when I was a child. I find that the WHM doesn't get rid of the high pitched hum but temporarily adds a white-noise-like sound on top of it.

Re: We ‘may’ have discovered a potential remedy for tinnitus

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Post by 5oksuuhm »

founderling wrote: post #193

To those who have tinnitus: When you put a finger in your ear and create a bit more or a bit less pressure - does that change the frequency of your tinnitus? Because for me it totally does. And I wonder if every tinnitus is like that. Also: Is your tinnitus mainly on one side or equally on both sides? For me it is mainly on the right side.

I have a ~1400hz tinnitus that changes with pressure as you describe. I've also recently noticed ibuprofen quietens it some.

Re: We ‘may’ have discovered a potential remedy for tinnitus

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Post by blendo »

0-_-0 wrote: post #156
StavrosK wrote: post #148

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What kind of plugs are designed for music? That's interesting.

There's something from Etymotic. It has a hole in it to reduce spectral distortion.

I've used Etymotics for years. Cheap ($20), comfortable, easy to carry, and a wonderfully flat frequency response (at least compared to cheap foam plugs). Also, Etymotics makes great wired ear buds.

Re: We ‘may’ have discovered a potential remedy for tinnitus

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Post by citruscomputing »

mikelyons wrote: post #141

Anecdotal, but a close friend told me that during a moderately high dose mushroom experience his tinnitus was gone for the duration (~4 hours). I was there with him while he was experiencing this.

I've seen people reporting the same, and also sustained (weeks or months) improvement from even microdoses.

Re: We ‘may’ have discovered a potential remedy for tinnitus

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Post by RonanTheGrey »

reeddavid wrote: post #233

There are many calls for personal responsibility here. But I think the average person is not making a choice to sustain permanent hearing damage – most people don't know the risks. I used to own a decible meter. I brought it to a movie theater (large chain) and found sustained volume of 100+ decibels. It was physically painful. I was the only customer who complained to the theater. I asked what sound level they inten…

It's been my experience that most places can reduce volume levels (music, theaters etc) about 10-15% without loss of experience or fidelity and I have taken to actually asking managers to turn down volume because my ears actually hurt. It's loud for the sake of loud. I can't understand why the music in a restaurant needs to be so loud that I have to scream at the people at my table to be heard.

Obviously we're screaming over other tables, too, who are also screaming over us. It's a big scream fest, and I have observed that alot of it starts with high music volume levels. Turn down the damn music, come on.

Oh and get off my lawn.

(I'm not that old really hah but I sound that way when I make an issue of this...)

Re: We ‘may’ have discovered a potential remedy for tinnitus

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Post by ay »

peheje wrote: post #127

I had a ringing for a weekend and found and used this extensively https://github.com/generalfuzz/acrn I remember it being after some loud event. But I honestly can't remember. It went away. But it might not have been tinnitus and just an ear infection. Or it might have helped, I'm just one sample size.

I coincidentally had a 13khz whistle while reading your comment in a quiet room. Tried the protocol, and now I can hear how quiet it is here - the whistle is gone. So that’s a sample of two now. Thank you so much for posting it!
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