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Re: We ‘may’ have discovered a potential remedy for tinnitus

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Post by sujNansnam »

penagwin wrote: post #94
_fy0z wrote: post #91

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Experiencing tinnitus while having no discernible hearing loss on a standard audiogram could possibly be due to hidden hearing loss [1]. That said, I have read (anecdotally) that many people claim to hear a slight high-pitched tone in a quiet environment, so it could be quite a bit more common than one would imagine. [1] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21940438

It might be similar to (albiet the oposite of) how putting on a pair of decent active noise cancelling headphones "sound different" (even if you were in an otherwise quiet room) and/or many people report a "head pressure" feeling. Their brain is used to filtering out the background noise, so removing it causes strange sensations.

I don’t think the head pressure feeling is something the brain automatically adds to silence. I get that feeling from noise-canceling headphones but I don’t get it from a sensory deprivation tank.

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Post by owlninja »

peheje wrote: post #127

I had a ringing for a weekend and found and used this extensively https://github.com/generalfuzz/acrn I remember it being after some loud event. But I honestly can't remember. It went away. But it might not have been tinnitus and just an ear infection. Or it might have helped, I'm just one sample size.

If you just have ringing in one ear, do you only put one earbud in and go from there?

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Post by mdorazio »

learc83 wrote: post #21
mdorazio wrote: post #13

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It doesn't [1]. It switched to First to File several years ago. [1] https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/what-does-the-first-...

First to file in the US still has a 1 year grace period. It's not as robust as under first to invent, but it still exists.

My understanding is that it’s not that simple and the grace period isn’t really a guarantee [1].

[1] https://ocpatentlawyer.com/dangers-of-1-yr-grace-period-unde...

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Post by tsimionescu »

shawnz wrote: post #93
dvdhnt wrote: post #41

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Right, a possible dramatic improvement of quality of life for those with tinnitus, but your first thought is IP theft? I surely hope those kinds of thoughts, and the arcane system that nurtured them, does a swift and painful death as we retake basic human rights and healthcare from the clutches of capitalism’s greasy claws. Edit: I’m criticizing how a society can create such a connection in the first place.

I think you've got it all backwards. We created capitalism in our image, not the other way around. Capitalism is also what achieved those things which you are suggesting we should retake in the first place. Would it be better to not have capitalism if it meant not having those things?

Capitalism and human rights have nothing to do with each other. There are capitalist nations, such as Denmark or the US, which have pretty decent human rights for their own citizens at least. And there are other capitalist nations, such as China or the USSR, which have very bad track records on human rights.

And no, state capitalism, such as you can find in China or the USSR, is not socialism or communism, any more than North Korea is a people's republic.

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Post by ubercow13 »

lazyasciiart wrote: post #155
debatem1 wrote: post #154

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No, it isn't. There are three related reasons why. First, we don't exclusively experience a concert through our ears. The reason people use words like "thumping" to describe bass is because it's felt as much as heard. That experience is important to many forms of music, and it isn't possible to get it at low volume. The second is that the relative volume of different instruments is usually more important to the sound…

Sure, you shouldn't expect to cuddle the speakers - but I go to live shows in small venues where I'm trying to dig myself into the wall at the furthest point from the speakers because it's too loud. They just need to turn it down.

Have you heard how loud an unamplified acoustic drum kit is in a small venue? It would be loud enough to damage your ears alone. On top of that for many kinds of music, drums have to be amplified to give them a certain sound. Then everything else has to be brought up to that volume.

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Post by loceng »

It sounds to me like it's basically a white noise machine. For those who don't know there is a sound therapy called Auditory Integration Training (Berard AIT) - along with a book you can buy on Amazon called "Hearing Equals Behaviour: Updated and Expanded" that can help reduce or eliminate tinnitus; it more or less from my understanding and experience is allowing the brain to un-focus from the sound, from that sensory, allowing the brain and sensory input to equalize - as body is a system designed to constantly find homeostasis.

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Post by vinceguidry »

core-questions wrote: post #182
lazyasciiart wrote: post #155

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Sure, you shouldn't expect to cuddle the speakers - but I go to live shows in small venues where I'm trying to dig myself into the wall at the furthest point from the speakers because it's too loud. They just need to turn it down.

I'd love to go to a concert for audiophiles - no distortion at all, just loud clear music. There's no need for it to be so stupendously loud, especially if the audience is able to shut the fuck up and actually listen.

I saw King Crimson in concert earlier this year at the Cobb Energy Center in Atlanta, it was phenomenal and just as you describe.

There are also small venues that specialize in these kinds of grown-up music shows. Again talking Atlanta here, the one I'm thinking of is Eddie's Attic.

Idea is to pick the venue first, then select which acts you'd like to see there.

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Post by abawany »

yellowapple wrote: post #209
pedrocr wrote: post #129

Finding a cure or treatment for tinnitus would be awesome. I have a very mild case from a few too many loud concerts. What I find amazing is how we don't attack the source of the problem much that I can see. Concerts, clubs, fireworks, even movies blast away above any reasonable level, causing damage to large parts of the population. We all just get progressively damaged hearing bit by bit. And yet there's very littl…

In the latter case, I know quite a few people who bring earplugs with them to concerts, and I don't know of anyone judging 'em for that. Quite a few musicians wear 'em when performing, too, specifically out of recognition that their ears are pretty darn critical to music (not all of us are Beethoven, after all!). I keep a bunch of earplugs in my car specifically for when I'm out shooting with friends, specifically so…

At the first concert I ever attended (Trans Siberian Orchestra), the check-in staff handed out earplugs to anyone who wanted. My hearing was already gone by that point for other reasons but I appreciated having those plugs given that the seat was right by the stage.

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Post by soapboxrocket »

magduf wrote: post #117
soapboxrocket wrote: post #87

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Yea, I second this. I had my hearing tested and the results came out "very good." I talked with the doctor and she basically said that what is most likely happening with me is that I have "better" hearing than most and this is what is making it difficult to hear. She said what is probably happening is that I hear a lot of ranges outside the test window and/or I just hear the lower background noises better than I hear…

This sounds like me; I seem to have great hearing (I can still hear those "mosquito" devices used to annoy teenagers even though I'm over 40), but I have a hard time understanding human speech when there's a lot of ambient noise. Noisy restaurants are very unpleasant for me, and I'm constantly asking people to repeat themselves.

Yup, exactly my problem and why I went in for the test. Told that I just need to ask people to constantly repeat themselves.

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Post by shawnz »

tsimionescu wrote: post #224
shawnz wrote: post #93

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I think you've got it all backwards. We created capitalism in our image, not the other way around. Capitalism is also what achieved those things which you are suggesting we should retake in the first place. Would it be better to not have capitalism if it meant not having those things?

Capitalism and human rights have nothing to do with each other. There are capitalist nations, such as Denmark or the US, which have pretty decent human rights for their own citizens at least. And there are other capitalist nations, such as China or the USSR, which have very bad track records on human rights. And no, state capitalism, such as you can find in China or the USSR, is not socialism or communism, any more t…

I know there are capitalist nations which have weak human rights. But are there any non-capitalist nations which have strong human rights?
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