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Re: We ‘may’ have discovered a potential remedy for tinnitus

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Post by peheje »

x2f10 wrote: post #136
peheje wrote: post #127

I had a ringing for a weekend and found and used this extensively https://github.com/generalfuzz/acrn I remember it being after some loud event. But I honestly can't remember. It went away. But it might not have been tinnitus and just an ear infection. Or it might have helped, I'm just one sample size.

Interesting. It seems my tinnitus is around freq 8200. I'll give this tool a go when I'm in a more quiet environment.

I remember when I used it the ringing totally stopped in between the calibration sounds.

Does it do that to you as well?

The sounds were pretty annoying but at least I could control their intensity and while going to sleep I could gradually make it lower and lower until I slept.

Re: We ‘may’ have discovered a potential remedy for tinnitus

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Post by jly »

_8j7i wrote: post #81

Is it possible that tinnitus is actually just a person's inability to ignore natural noise in the hearing systems? More of a physchological issue like chewing fingernails or having OCD, but which can be amplified by legitimate physical hearing damage? I ask this because for all the life I can remember, I've always been able to perceive a high-pitched tone, even in completely quiet environments. If I actually focus on…

I think there is absolutely something to this. I have mild tinnitus and my hearing is fairly poor after too many years of loud headphone use. However, I rarely notice a bothersome perception of noise unless I focus on it.

Other similar phenomenon exist. For example, some people are strongly bothered by floaters in the eyes while others seem to take it more easily in stride, as the brain will naturally compensate the vision. It wouldn't surprise me at all if individual tolerance varies wildly to these issues.

Re: We ‘may’ have discovered a potential remedy for tinnitus

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Post by microtherion »

mattmanser wrote: post #133
peheje wrote: post #132

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Go to concerts dude! Just wear protection. You can get these plugs designed for music. Just have a backup pair with you as well.

I regularly go to concerts with earplugs, often it sounds better with them in, especially if the volume is too loud or treble is too high.

A few years ago, after a Ministry concert which was off the scale loud (or maybe I just have become off the scale old for this kind of music), I bought a pair of Earasers (https://www.earasers.store) and the few times I had to wear them, they worked great, protected my ears while being fairly transparent, and did wonders for my enjoyment of the music.

Re: We ‘may’ have discovered a potential remedy for tinnitus

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Post by debatem1 »

pedrocr wrote: post #135
peheje wrote: post #132

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Go to concerts dude! Just wear protection. You can get these plugs designed for music. Just have a backup pair with you as well.

I know this now. The fact that this is needed just further illustrates my point. We first blast music above safe levels and then expect people to compensate for that with hearing protection. That's just insane.

No, it isn't. There are three related reasons why.

First, we don't exclusively experience a concert through our ears. The reason people use words like "thumping" to describe bass is because it's felt as much as heard. That experience is important to many forms of music, and it isn't possible to get it at low volume.

The second is that the relative volume of different instruments is usually more important to the sound of a song than the absolute volume at the listener. Given that modern instruments have a huge range of loudness (drums are irreducibly loud, electric guitars very quiet), it's clear that you are going to have to amplify up to around the loudest noise to get the mix correct.

Third, sometimes it's just about range. Large concert halls, amphitheaters, etc need to get the mix right across hundreds of yards. Just as you would have to bellow to hold a conversation with someone on the other end of a football field, so a band has to be made loud to do the same.

So, sorry if you have to wear earplugs to cuddle the speakers-- but this really is done to a purpose.

Re: We ‘may’ have discovered a potential remedy for tinnitus

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Post by lazyasciiart »

debatem1 wrote: post #154
pedrocr wrote: post #135

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know this now. The fact that this is needed just further illustrates my point. We first blast music above safe levels and then expect people to compensate for that with hearing protection. That's just insane.

No, it isn't. There are three related reasons why. First, we don't exclusively experience a concert through our ears. The reason people use words like "thumping" to describe bass is because it's felt as much as heard. That experience is important to many forms of music, and it isn't possible to get it at low volume. The second is that the relative volume of different instruments is usually more important to the sound…

Sure, you shouldn't expect to cuddle the speakers - but I go to live shows in small venues where I'm trying to dig myself into the wall at the furthest point from the speakers because it's too loud. They just need to turn it down.

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Post by 0-_-0 »

StavrosK wrote: post #148
peheje wrote: post #132

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Go to concerts dude! Just wear protection. You can get these plugs designed for music. Just have a backup pair with you as well.

What kind of plugs are designed for music? That's interesting.

There's something from Etymotic. It has a hole in it to reduce spectral distortion.

Re: We ‘may’ have discovered a potential remedy for tinnitus

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Post by debatem1 »

mattmanser wrote: post #133
peheje wrote: post #132

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Go to concerts dude! Just wear protection. You can get these plugs designed for music. Just have a backup pair with you as well.

I regularly go to concerts with earplugs, often it sounds better with them in, especially if the volume is too loud or treble is too high.

I'm a fan of metal and small venues (something of a double whammy for getting too much volume in one place) and I just can't recommend earasers and similar enough. Literally life-changing. I often wind up going to see live music three or four times a week, and if I didn't wear them I really would be deaf by now.

Re: We ‘may’ have discovered a potential remedy for tinnitus

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Post by newnewpdro »

When I moved to a largely off-grid remote location of dead silence it became clear I had a mild form of tinnitus.

Initially it was quite annoying and I thought it would drive me insane being in otherwise complete silence where it was so hard to ignore. But after a few months of silence it magically went away.

I suspect it was caused by my nearly constant use of headphones in cafes/offices. On my land there's no need for such isolation mechanisms.

We're probably doing more harm to ourselves than expected by wearing headphones every day, it's certainly not natural.

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