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Right, and this machine moves further towards a portable workstation by embedding more power, allowing people to do some tasks on-site that would have previously required a fixed workstation. The “but why would you want a powerful portable machine” argument has always seemed really strange to me. It’s the same reason I’d want any portable machine.
The more powerful, the less portable. It's a tradeoff.
MacBook Pro 16" 2019 Teardown
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I mean you are also free to pay hundreds over the years in air cans, wasting money and harming the environment.
Unless you are really using canned air daily, you will not have to spend 100$ for it over your whole life.
Otherwise I'll use a vacuum or duster, if it's not delicate electronics.
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This is correct. The Magic keyboard has been beloved for several years, and it is not a keyboard that has ever been in a laptop before.
Ugh. I despise the "magic" keyboard as there's way too little travel. I always found the whole thing a bit physically painful. It's never going to happen but I'd love to see a return of the Aluminum / Titanium PowerBook keyboard.
And I also did not like the feel Put it this way I brought in an old Zenith keyboard from a p90 system from the mid 90's to use instead.
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The 64GB of ram alone makes the new 16" a completely different machine. It really can't even be compared to the previous generations. 64 opens up a lot of possibilities in the media creation space that, realistically, were just not there with 32, and were pretty much impossible with 16 gig. Given a choice, I would much rather have had the 64 gig rather than a new keyboard. A keyboard you can put a cover on. There's n…
What's impossible with 16gig? Isn't disk cache a thing?
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They do it for stiffness, which does improve the typing experience.
It is not obvious to me that screws would be less stiff than rivets. I am fine with such a laptop not being "user serviceable", but it should be designed so that a trained technician with the right tools can do these kind of repairs. I consider the statements of Apple about the environment friendlyness of their devices phony, as long as a keyboard defect can total the device or at least mean, that large parts of the…
It's a tough question to definitively answer. Are there greater environmental costs to producing and using screws rather than rivets? If so, how does that balance against the environmental costs of replacing failed computers?
It's possible that a fixed keyboard could be the correct choice if their new keyboard fails in low enough numbers.
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#456iFixit can't cover an Apple device without injecting just a bit of snark and passive-aggression into it. People who buy these things know what they're getting. Score it how you want to, but spare me the sermon.
iFixit are not even pretending to be a neutral party here. They have a clear agenda and a clear viewpoint and that is very much the point. And there is nothing wrong with that. While I agree with them in broad strokes I also disagree on some points but that’s not the end of the world. We just disagree and that’s alright.
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Can you really tell if you don’t like the older keyboard more because of familiarity after a few minutes with the new one? I can’t. I just got the Magic Keyboard and it’s still growing on me after a few days.
I've been using a magic keyboard for the past few years, and any time I type on the older 2015 MacBook pro's keyboard now, it feels like I'm pressing my fingers into a mushy sponge. For me, at least, the Magic Keyboard is the happy medium between the too short action on the 2016-19 Pro keyboards, and the too deep action on the 2015 and earlier,
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#458Call me crazy but I must be the only person who enjoys typing on the old butterfly keyboard. Yes I was one of those people who originally thought the travel was too small but after using it for a couple hours I found the low travel was a huge relief to Carpal Tunnel and I also typed much faster. Maybe I have the only keyboard that “works” but I love me some butterfly keyboards.
I felt the same way until my butterfly keyboard gradually stopped working and I went back to my old 2014 MBP keyboard, and realized I had developed Stockholm Syndrome. If you haven't already, try switching back to the old (or new) scissor keys and see if you still feel the same.
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#459Most important point: Apple fixed the keyboard by ditching the flawed keyboard used for the past 3 years and returning to the Magic Keyboard scissor switch design. Comparing the 'new' keyboard to the Magic Keyboard: "side by side, we're hard pressed to spot any differences. Scissor switches, keycaps... There's slightly less space surrounding these new keys, and pundits will celebrate those reconfigured arrow keys—but…
This is one of the reasons I didn't buy any new MBP after 2016 anymore. I was so unsatisfied with many changes ranging from the keyboard disaster to the loss of ports that are still industry standard and used every day for some years to come. Probably this is the start for Apple to find back to some quality and say goodbye to strange experiments. Users should feel good using a device and not pay a lot of $$$ to becom…
The new butterfly system was cheaper to produce than the old one. Old keyboard design were more complicated. And the keys made from a more sturdy plastic. I have removed and replaced several keys on both kind keyboard and I broke partially 2 key from the new keyboard, using a more fragile plastic but none of the old version, this taking account to the fact that the new key were more easy to remove.
The USB-C choice was also about reducing cost. Integrate 2 USB-C is less expensive than integrate 1 power input, 2 thunderbolts, 2 USB 3, 1 card reader, and 1 hdmi output.
Removing the MacSafe for the cheap defective usb-c power plug (after 1 year, the cable don't stay stuck anymore in the USB-C, causing the macbook battery to discharge without useur knowledge, and forcing him to push back the cable a least 10 time as day because of the low quality of the component, no matter the cable you used to plug your macbook) was also about cutting cost.
On the pretense to changing design and and adopting new trends, the have cut cost by reducing the quality and the number of feature of their computer.
That's how they became the richest company in the world.
Re: MacBook Pro 16" 2019 Teardown
#460Call me crazy but I must be the only person who enjoys typing on the old butterfly keyboard. Yes I was one of those people who originally thought the travel was too small but after using it for a couple hours I found the low travel was a huge relief to Carpal Tunnel and I also typed much faster. Maybe I have the only keyboard that “works” but I love me some butterfly keyboards.
I actually prefer the butterfly keyboard's clickiness – coming from a mechanical keyboard, I always found the chiclet keys a tad too mushy. And the jarringly-short travel, while annoying at first, is easy to adapt to. The thing that turned me against the butterfly keyboard were the reliability issues. I've had to get replacements for broken keyboards three times: spacebar stopped working, `f` ended up double typing e…