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MacBook Pro 16" 2019 Teardown

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Re: MacBook Pro 16" 2019 Teardown

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Post by kkarakk »

majewsky wrote: post #371
Symbiote wrote: post #324

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Please avoid calling the "gas duster" type cans "compressed air". It's misleading. They usually contain compressed fluorocarbons like difluoroethane. These are toxic chemicals, which are also potent greenhouse gases. Their casual use for cleaning should be discouraged.

What's a good replacement for a casual user who wants to clean their electronics? (Honest question.)

There is quite literally no option out there that makes sense economically or logically - The impact to the environment is negligible.

You aren't the one shifting the earth's atmosphere, it's greenhouse gases from the millions of cars,from industry and deforestation.

Everyone could start smoking cigarettes and spraying aerosol into their laptop once a day and you wouldn't make a dent in the ozone comparatively

Re: MacBook Pro 16" 2019 Teardown

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Post by wil421 »

kkarakk wrote: post #439
irrational wrote: post #410

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My company uses freestyle seating (which sucks big time, but that's a story for a different day) which means a desktop or workstation is not a possibility for me. Anything that can make a laptop closer in power to a workstation is great in my book.

Your neck must be killing you, everyone in freestyle seating ends up hunched over their laptops. Unless they also give you nice laptop stands to put on your "freestyle" desk?

I worked at a company with freestyle seating. Out of the 2,000+ seats everyone had a movable standing desk and at least one monitor. Most desks had 2 monitors. No hunching required.

Re: MacBook Pro 16" 2019 Teardown

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Post by redm »

I switched from a pair of Mac Pro's to a 15" Macbook Pro last year. The 15" was the first laptop to support quad 4k displays (what I was using with my Mac Pro). The laptop has been fantastic, with the exception of cooling. The cooling is bad enough that I keep it (when it's hooked up to my quad 4k displays) upside down, with 2 plastic cups, to keep it from overheating.

I'm mostly interested in the enhanced cooling. If it's really that much better, it may be time to upgrade. Has anyone had similar experiences?

Re: MacBook Pro 16" 2019 Teardown

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Post by azimuth11 »

redm wrote: post #443

I switched from a pair of Mac Pro's to a 15" Macbook Pro last year. The 15" was the first laptop to support quad 4k displays (what I was using with my Mac Pro). The laptop has been fantastic, with the exception of cooling. The cooling is bad enough that I keep it (when it's hooked up to my quad 4k displays) upside down, with 2 plastic cups, to keep it from overheating. I'm mostly interested in the enhanced cooling. I…

Yes. Everyone in my office complains about it.

Re: MacBook Pro 16" 2019 Teardown

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Post by gsaga »

usaphp wrote: post #220
tolmasky wrote: post #165

I went with my gf to take a look at these last night at the Apple store. Her command key has completely stopped working on her 2018 MacBook that otherwise works perfectly fine. It feels clumsily large, especially since we’re coming from MacBook 13s. She kept asking me if I’d heard any rumors about when new 13s would come out. She went in pretty determined to get a new machine but decided to wait. The struggle continu…

Huh?? 64gb of ram, bigger screen, much more powerful GpU, bigger storage options, better thermals, better microphone, better speakers, bigger battery...it’s definitely not just “the same CPU” and a fixed keyboard”...not sure what else did you expect?

What is it going to do with 64GB of ram? Load the whole OS in memory?

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Post by larusso »

Twirrim wrote: post #71
webwielder2 wrote: post #3

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The Magic Keyboard design is not the 2012-2015 MBP keyboard design, it's the design from their line of external keyboards. iFixit's jokey intro is misleading in this regard.

I rarely complain about that kind of stuff, but the sheer number of jokes in that article had it reaching the "trying too hard to be funny" stage in near record time.

I felt the same way. And I consider myself a very funny person. Like it’s written by Deadpool.

Re: MacBook Pro 16" 2019 Teardown

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Post by gambiting »

magashna wrote: post #436
gambiting wrote: post #413

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Those do exist - MSI and Asus made a few recently I'm sure. For example: https://www.laptopmag.com/reviews/laptops/msi-gt75vr-titan-p... I mean, at 4.5kg it's extremely heavy for a laptop, but it does have a mechanical keyboard and very beefy spec.

That's for a very niche, need to game on the go, market. It's otherwise ridiculous looking

We actually use something very similar to run our servers at conferences and presentations, don't really care about the gpu but having a desktop-grade CPU in a "portable" package is very useful for this.

Re: MacBook Pro 16" 2019 Teardown

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Post by natch »

khal_bc wrote: post #437
ksec wrote: post #366

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>There is always something new just around the corner. True, but something new isn't always something better, and isn't always worth waiting for. Aka 2016 - 2019 MBP 15". And in the above cases, I consider Icelake IPC and Security improvement along with WiFI 6 to be quite a significant upgrade, not the same could be said for the past 3 update of MacBook Pro.

This is true, but relatively insignificant. Things in tech don't tend to evolve smoothly and predictably. I think anyone who remembers the 'Do not buy the 2015 MBP, Skylake is right around the corner and it will bring such improvements you should definitely wait' knows that it's senseless to tell people to wait for Apple to release a 16 incher with 10nm processors if they want a new laptop. There's multiple reasons w…

The post started with “For those who are not in a hurry to upgrade.”

I found the post informative and useful, with details that I hadn’t been aware of.

I found the rebuttals to it to be dismissive and full of obvious well known information and anecdotes that did not bear repeating in a forum like this one where we are well aware of the nature of incremental technology advances.

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Post by geerlingguy »

boardwaalk wrote: post #418
cassianoleal wrote: post #86

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Personally, I prefer the MBP2015 keyboard to the Magic Keyboard. I have been to an Apple Store recently to try out the MBP16's keyboard and it's good - but not as good as the one I'm typing this on. I also don't understand the obsession with key stability on the corners. I like the instability. I use it when I'm touch typing - it gives my fingers a lot more tactile feedback.

Can you really tell if you don’t like the older keyboard more because of familiarity after a few minutes with the new one? I can’t. I just got the Magic Keyboard and it’s still growing on me after a few days.

I've been using a magic keyboard for the past few years, and any time I type on the older 2015 MacBook pro's keyboard now, it feels like I'm pressing my fingers into a mushy sponge.

For me, at least, the Magic Keyboard is the happy medium between the too short action on the 2016-19 Pro keyboards, and the too deep action on the 2015 and earlier,

Re: MacBook Pro 16" 2019 Teardown

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Post by fastball »

gsaga wrote: post #445
usaphp wrote: post #220

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Huh?? 64gb of ram, bigger screen, much more powerful GpU, bigger storage options, better thermals, better microphone, better speakers, bigger battery...it’s definitely not just “the same CPU” and a fixed keyboard”...not sure what else did you expect?

What is it going to do with 64GB of ram? Load the whole OS in memory?

With 64GB of RAM I might be able to open, like, 12 Chrome tabs.
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