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Intel desktop board BIOS update end-of-life

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Re: Intel desktop board BIOS update end-of-life

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AMD never really made boards. That was part of their problem for a long time. They didn’t even make or support chipsets. It was just VIA and other third party stuff that was so riddled with bugs it was hard to recommend for anything other than enthusiast gaming.

Now now, the Nvidia chipsets were highly coveted for both Intel and AMD.

Nvidia chipsets came from AMD IP originally.

Re: Intel desktop board BIOS update end-of-life

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It depends on maintainers though. We now kick devices out of coreboot where we suspect that the code wouldn't even boot anymore and there's nobody able to prove otherwise. We'd certainly welcome them moving to coreboot. They might even gain a new feature or two, but there's work involved on their part (and the story usually ends at that point).

Still the kicked out code is out there somewhere. As opposed to.

It still needs someone to do something with it. And the lack thereof was the reason it got removed in the first place.

Re: Intel desktop board BIOS update end-of-life

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Still the kicked out code is out there somewhere. As opposed to.

It still needs someone to do something with it. And the lack thereof was the reason it got removed in the first place.

A future someone can resurrect that code via git. A future someone who wants to interact with old BIOS code that Intel just deleted doesn't have that chance.

Re: Intel desktop board BIOS update end-of-life

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This is why projects like coreboot are very important. Open source doesn't depend on someone's marketing itch.

It depends on maintainers though. We now kick devices out of coreboot where we suspect that the code wouldn't even boot anymore and there's nobody able to prove otherwise. We'd certainly welcome them moving to coreboot. They might even gain a new feature or two, but there's work involved on their part (and the story usually ends at that point).

It seems like for new motherboards it's be easier to start with coreboot over status quo. Are there reasons this isn't true or does it come down to marketing reasons?

Re: Intel desktop board BIOS update end-of-life

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It still needs someone to do something with it. And the lack thereof was the reason it got removed in the first place.

A future someone can resurrect that code via git. A future someone who wants to interact with old BIOS code that Intel just deleted doesn't have that chance.

Indeed. And if somebody brings old code up to current standards, we're happy to put it in again. Haven't seen that happen yet though.

Re: Intel desktop board BIOS update end-of-life

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So you buy new hardware.

Well, as this only concerns their own motherboards, there is no more hardware to buy from them[1], so I really don't think that's it. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21513556

Good point, but buying a new mainboard often also means buying a new cpu. I dont think you will be able to fit any of Intels current cpus in the EOL motherboards.
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