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Intel desktop board BIOS update end-of-life

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Re: Intel desktop board BIOS update end-of-life

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D865PERL looks like it was built for a Pentium 4 in 2003. Its not like Intel is saying the board wont continue to work, just no bios updates. How often do you need to update the bios on a 16 year old system?

unfortunately the same applies here: https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/28273/BIOS-Update-...

OK I see that is for LGA1155 boards released 8 years ago, which isn't great but I'm not sure you need BIOS updates still.

Re: Intel desktop board BIOS update end-of-life

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Storage is indeed cheap. Buying it through a service provider not so much.

But old stuff tends to be adorably small compared to new stuff. I doubt the sum total of intel’s legacy firmware update collection exceeds the capacity of a ten year old piece of spinning rust.

The torrent made by r/DataHoarders is under 400GB

Re: Intel desktop board BIOS update end-of-life

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I can't believe this. All these years I've been recommending Intel products because of their long term support. I know these boards are legacy, but does it really cost them that much to host the files for occasional downloaders? One would have thought they'd tread carefully after so many recent PR hits, but I guess not.

If they don't reverse this decision, I very much hope they keep hashes of the driver exe's on their site. If I need to update BIOS there's no way in hell I'm trusting a link from a random stranger on the internet.

This seems like a legal move, so assume they remove the hashes to absolve themselves of liability.

Re: Intel desktop board BIOS update end-of-life

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Don't hold your breath. AMD has been terrible at marketing themselves against Intel for nearly 2 decades.

I feel like there was a period of time around 2000 when they had some edge, at least with gamers. Soon after that they disappeared for a while and only now i'm hearing about them again.

They lost a ton of ground right around 2006 when Core2Duo became a thing and they couldn't keep up.

Re: Intel desktop board BIOS update end-of-life

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I can't believe this. All these years I've been recommending Intel products because of their long term support. I know these boards are legacy, but does it really cost them that much to host the files for occasional downloaders? One would have thought they'd tread carefully after so many recent PR hits, but I guess not.

Is 15 years not long term enough support for you?

8* year. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy_Bridge

Re: Intel desktop board BIOS update end-of-life

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what industries would these be?

Most of them in my experience. Many industrial machines have lifespans well beyond 15years. Big companies buy the state of the art and when they decide to replace the old machines they resell them to smaller companies who can't afford to buy the newest model. I know many people on HN work in web technologies where last year's technology is already obsolete but I've worked in small hardware companies that still used i…

I work in Manufacturing IT, I can confirm that there is considerable legacy equipment. Thing is, these machines typically cost more than a house, some as much as $2.5M+ dollars. Would you demo your house and rebuild in 20 years because of a leaky roof? These machines are mortgaged the same way, the bank secures the asset. They will work for 20+ years if you maintain them, and continue to produce.

Re: Intel desktop board BIOS update end-of-life

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unfortunately the same applies here: https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/28273/BIOS-Update-...

OK I see that is for LGA1155 boards released 8 years ago, which isn't great but I'm not sure you need BIOS updates still.

They're also doing it for 1151, which is more recent.

Re: Intel desktop board BIOS update end-of-life

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what industries would these be?

Most of them in my experience. Many industrial machines have lifespans well beyond 15years. Big companies buy the state of the art and when they decide to replace the old machines they resell them to smaller companies who can't afford to buy the newest model. I know many people on HN work in web technologies where last year's technology is already obsolete but I've worked in small hardware companies that still used i…

Case in point: McLaren uses a special Compaq laptop from 1992 to service old F1's. Why? Well, the car was made in 1992, and so was the ECU.

https://jalopnik.com/this-ancient-laptop-is-the-only-key-to-...

Re: Intel desktop board BIOS update end-of-life

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Headline is unsubstantiated and false. Intel is no longer serving BIOS updates for at least one product that was released 16 years ago and last manufactured 15 years(!) ago. You've had 15 years to make copies of the BIOS files for your needs, and you can still use the original BIOS on your device. Nothing to see here.

Headline is fully substantiated and I also see that 1151 support (as in boards made just a few years ago) are having their BIOS/UEFI downloads nixed as well. I just tried updating my board with my 7th gen i3. No downloads when I knew one existed before (I refused to get it because everything currently just works.)
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