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Re: PayPal stops payouts to models on Pornhub

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Post by CapricornNoble »

int_19h wrote: post #477
CapricornNoble wrote: post #465

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Agreed. And I think a large fraction of men (the ones who naturally suck at seducing women to begin with), if given the means to both reproduce and achieve sexual gratification WITHOUT women, would leap at the opportunity. Women recognize this, which is why they so heavily resist things like sex robots or even male contraception. Jango Fett from Star Wars Episode 2 was an archetypal MGTOW and ahead of his time: cloni…

Women most certainly don't resist male contraception. On the contrary, women are usually the ones who have to keep reminding men to do it, or to use more reliable methods. For fairly obvious reasons: women are the ones who have to deal with far more serious consequences of unprotected sex. And as for robots... consider the relative popularity of mechanical aids such as vibrators for women, and for men. I'd say that w…

>>>Women most certainly don't resist male contraception. On the contrary, women are usually the ones who have to keep reminding men to do it, or to use more reliable methods.

I should have clarified, I wasn't referring to condoms but to pill-style oral contraceptives. Entirely my fault for the lack of specificity.[1][2]

>>>I'd say that women have embraced sex robots a long time ago.

Not as a replacement for THEMSELVES. [3][4][5]

[1]https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1251868/Of-course...

[2]https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/the-male-pill-contracep...

[3]https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6730555/Swedish-fem...

[4]https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/sep/25/ban-se...

[5]https://www.feministcurrent.com/2017/04/27/sex-robots-epitom...

Re: PayPal stops payouts to models on Pornhub

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Post by Arubis »

VvR-Ox wrote: post #635
mola wrote: post #563

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Yup, it seems US citizens pay crazy amount of hidden tax because of inefficiencies caused by fanatical anti government propaganda. This isn't only about freedom it's about keeping power in certain hands. Too bad it's being exported everywhere

+1 for this. When working in Germany I talked to citizens who told me their state is also heading that direction. More things are denationalized so private companies now have the responsibility but also the revenue (like "Autobahn" or some time ago the post). When I understand it correctly those where initially financed by public money so it seems like this investment is now being absorbed by the companies overtaking…

The flippant-yet-accurate description I've heard of this is "socialized losses, privatized profits".

Re: PayPal stops payouts to models on Pornhub

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Post by 1337biz »

BLKNSLVR wrote: post #268
1337biz wrote: post #243

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To be honest I appreciate PayPal doing this. The more we see prominent cases of deplatforming, the more people are going to take it as a serious problem. One can always hide behind some pr bullshit when it comes to political free speech and so on. But porn it is finally something enough people care about to take it seriously.

It depends if the de-platforming is happening for reasons of social outrage / offense (bad) or commercial reasons (maybe not 'good' but at least 'better'). If it's about this particular industry sub-group having a much-higher-than-normal rate of fraud or returns or buyers remorse or whatever causes more hassle to PayPal's processes than they're worth, then that makes commercial sense.

I don't even think people are differentiating that much about deplatforming. I am fine if the sentiment growth that thinks'those bad corporation have too much power and can't just start banning users without a clear cause'. The free speech issue is to narrow.

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Post by odiroot »

Bombthecat wrote: post #513
bcheung wrote: post #247

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I've had several friends in the adult industry have their checking accounts closed at a several major banks as well. Traditional banking should definitely not be discriminating against fully legal activities.

Forbidden in germany. There is literally a law, which basically says: everyone needs to have and is allowed to have a banking account.

In Sparkassen. Deutsche Bank, Commerzbank, DKB, etc can easily reject you.

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Post by odiroot »

yati wrote: post #575
hsailor wrote: post #558

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A jedermann Konto or Basiskonto refers only to a personal account. If a client uses this account for commercial activities (eg receiving payments in the said industry), the bank has every right to close the account.

So I can't use my personal account to receive salaries? Does the bank have to know/care about the details my profession?

You can if you're employed by another entity. You cannot use the same account to run a business.

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Post by rvz »

simion314 wrote: post #653
whynaut wrote: post #626

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> But how do I transfer bitcoins from your main wallet to the new one without having this transaction public so linking your wallets. Don’t transfer between personal wallets: when you purchase BTC, send it directly to the wallet you’ll use those funds with. Transaction mixers (there are other names, but i think mixer is/was common) are a viable way to deter this kind of attack, as they muddy the transaction history b…

Thanks for the response, IMO this issue should be addressed and be built in into the protocol before regular users could just start using it, so IMO using bitcoing for the PornHub is not a general solution and people that promote it without mentioning the anonymity problem are making a disservice.

> so IMO using bitcoing for the PornHub is not a general solution and people that promote it without mentioning the anonymity problem are making a disservice.

Well this is exactly why I said "cryptocurrencies" and not just only Bitcoin. Some of them respect your privacy and some do not. Some transfer faster than others.

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Post by madamelic »

beatgammit wrote: post #374
SlowRobotAhead wrote: post #359

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Talk to gun retailers that were shut down by Chase and Bank of America. Legal has nothing to do with it. There is an increasing degree of business that entirely revolves around feelings of people who yell the loudest.

This tells me we need more anonymity. A bank doesn't need to know any more about you than wherever is necessary to complete a transaction and report tax details to you and the government, and honestly that can be done with only a tax identification number (which should be separate from a Social Security Number). The same goes for payment processors, though payment processors may additionally need a company/individual…

KYC and AML regulations.

Know your customer and Anti-money laundering.

Those two are why banks need to know about you. Cash is harder to track, while well-organized digital cash is not.

Any time someone is dealing with money, both of those need to be covered. It is why Stripe is so valuable, they handle PCI, KYC and AML with a fantastic API.

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Post by pepesza »

egeozcan wrote: post #524
Bombthecat wrote: post #513

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Forbidden in germany. There is literally a law, which basically says: everyone needs to have and is allowed to have a banking account.

I'm living in Germany, the bank account of my neighbor in Commerzbank was closed because he wrote "hooker money" in description when sending money to one of his friends. At least that's what we believe because they refused to explain why. He could easily open another account in Volksbank and according to him, when the new account manager asked and learned why his previous account was closed, they had a pretty good la…

Don't give them any info. Write something along the lines of "transfer of money", always. Use separate channel to communicate "why". Every bit of information you give them will be used against you.

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Post by tripzilch »

noobermin wrote: post #517
Bombthecat wrote: post #513

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Forbidden in germany. There is literally a law, which basically says: everyone needs to have and is allowed to have a banking account.

Which further highlights how many "problems" that tech people in the US have tried to solve (transit->uber, various health care start-ups, etc) are essentially due to the failure of the US state to function properly or even focus on the right thing.

The failure of these people to fix their state, you mean. Instead choosing for the easier and more profitable option of going into tech and the road paved with good intentions.

You can build gigantic multinational corporations, disrupt all kinds of industries, change significant parts of people's lives with tech all written with code and rules and regulations but somehow making a well-functioning country is too hard, even when there's well-working smaller prototypes available to learn from.

Re: PayPal stops payouts to models on Pornhub

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Post by madamelic »

cable2600 wrote: post #437
aazaa wrote: post #135

Financial deplatforming is a monster, long-term trend to watch over the next decades. Deplatforming happens with sex workers. It also happens in the US marijuana industry. It happens with perfectly legal political content. The number of ways in which someone, somewhere will be offended by products or services for sale is growing, driven by a rapidly improving worldwide communication network and delivery system, and b…

This is Big Brother type censorship. Anyone they disagree with will get shut out of Paypal, Banks, Credit Cards, etc. There was Hatreon but Visa canceled their services for them. I agree the porn industry is legal and nobody forces people to watch Pornhub, now I doubt the future of Pornhub. I don't use it but I support those who do under the freedom of speech.

>now I doubt the future of Pornhub

There is one absolute in the world: porn will exist.

Look at every technology and one of the first adopters is porn. Porn has chosen the winner of most battles in tech.

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