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Thank you for linking the old post because the last time some people doubted that we would actually create this :)
To be fair, last time you posted a Show HN with nothing to show.
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#32This looks user friendly and will certainly have impact on ppl learning python/pandas. Yet not for me as I do not like the 'click to create macro code'. They never have all the things I want and like to have my code in my syntax. But that's me.
Thank you for your feedback! :) We also dont like software where you are restricted to whats available. Therefore, we integrated so tightly with pandas, so whenever something is not available you can add the code in the user interface or just in another cell. What do you think about this hybrid approach?
> What do you think about this hybrid approach?
What I want is to be able to add new functionality to the bamboo UI via new buttons for specific functionality that you don't have. Maybe if you had a plugin architecture.
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#33wow. i love it. (1) it would be nice if the ui panes did not overlap the table (2) what do you think about automated chart creation as seen in apache zeppelin and databricks notebooks? (3) shaded cells for 0-100 gradients like beakerx. (4) has this been tested with any large memory/ distributed memory pyspark/ koalas libs?
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#34If this is supposed to replace Microsoft Excel - Would an enterprise be willing to pay $500 / month for this thing instead of getting an entire Office Suite? I don't want to demean this amazing work but I think the user persona and the price for the tier seeming to be a mismatch.
Interesting to see that you already think about replacing Excel. We won't go that far. Currently, bamboolib is intended to save time for Python Data Scientists and therefore it integrates perfectly into their working environment. Python Data Scientists cost their companies between 2k to 10k USD per month. And with bamboolib they should easily save 10h per month. Especially if they need to explore new data sets or don…
Awesome demo, so you deserve some honest feedback.
After the demo I looked at the pricing and immediately decided it's not worth it by far.
From the viewpoint of a freelance software dev that does quite a lot if data cleaning lately, the price is so high that I wouldn't even bother trying it on binder.
As a comparison, I pay €53/year for PyCharm professional that I can install on as many machines as I like and pay for my Excel/Office a similar yearly amount. I switch between 3 computers, so having a license nailed to one of them is a dealbreaker.
Also, $49 + taxes roughly translates to 1 hour of income per month - every month if I use it or not. Plus I'd have to factor in the time it takes to setup and deal with license problems & bugs. Setting up licenses behind a company firewall is quite a challenge - unless you use a simple txt.file license option like jetbrains. BTW, Jetbrains also has a very cool feature in the license model: If you pay for at least a year, you get to keep the last version that's at least one year old for free. From my usage, I estimate that bamboolib could save me 1 hour per month max - currently I just paste to excel if I need to scroll in a larger data set or use the .sample() function to look at some examples.
So to tempt me there should be a freelancer license at a maximum of $49/year that covers at least 3 machines (only use one at a time) and should work offline.
BTW, the companies I work for all have not made the jump to Jupyter labs, yet. They are firmly Excel based and I'm constantly trying to drum up interest for Jupyter. I also do regular meetup talks on Jupyter (where normal business people show up) and many of them don't know that it exists, yet.
So having a very cheap or even free personal license would showcase your program to companies... and you could write the license in a way that companies need to buy a full price version.
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#35Earlier quoted context omitted.
Thank you for linking the old post because the last time some people doubted that we would actually create this :)
To be fair, last time you posted a Show HN with nothing to show.
Fair point indeed, but the good news is: we improved on that :) And it won't happen again.
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#36I'm sad that it's not open source, because I want to add functionality and now I can't.
I'm sorry to hear that you are sad because you wanted to contribute but can't. Maybe, we can find a solution to that. If you want to contribute (e.g. by joining our team), feel free to reach out to us! We are always happy to have capable and driven people on board :)
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#37Re: Show HN: Bamboolib – A GUI for Pandas (Python Data Science)
#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
Our main target user is a professional python data scientist that wants to be faster at data wrangling and visualization so that they can focus on understanding the data instead of coding the same pandas commands over and over again. That’s why bamboolib has both data transformation and exploration features included. In the future, we will provide more sophisticated features from which also more experienced data scie…
I have a similar problem with my product which offers machine learning as a service. It offers complex data science features (building ML models) for non-coders. From my experience, I can tell that it is hard to find users that don't have enough technical background to train the model by themself and enough background to understand what to do with ML model.
Interesting. So on which platform are you providing that service? What does your product look like (maybe share a link?)? And did you find a "solution" to your problem of finding a large enough audience?
Re: Show HN: Bamboolib – A GUI for Pandas (Python Data Science)
#39wow. i love it. (1) it would be nice if the ui panes did not overlap the table (2) what do you think about automated chart creation as seen in apache zeppelin and databricks notebooks? (3) shaded cells for 0-100 gradients like beakerx. (4) has this been tested with any large memory/ distributed memory pyspark/ koalas libs?
I am happy you like it :)
About (1) - (3): I will have a look at those features, but thanks a lot for the feedback.
About (4): we currently support pandas, but be basically want to offer many more backends in the future, therefore also making bamboolib interesting for companies that use clusters a lot.
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#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
Interesting to see that you already think about replacing Excel. We won't go that far. Currently, bamboolib is intended to save time for Python Data Scientists and therefore it integrates perfectly into their working environment. Python Data Scientists cost their companies between 2k to 10k USD per month. And with bamboolib they should easily save 10h per month. Especially if they need to explore new data sets or don…
Awesome demo, so you deserve some honest feedback. After the demo I looked at the pricing and immediately decided it's not worth it by far. From the viewpoint of a freelance software dev that does quite a lot if data cleaning lately, the price is so high that I wouldn't even bother trying it on binder. As a comparison, I pay €53/year for PyCharm professional that I can install on as many machines as I like and pay fo…
Thank you very much for that honest feedback. It means a lot to me. Honestly, I will have to reflect on what you said, but I would like to get back to you on this later.