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This looks user friendly and will certainly have impact on ppl learning python/pandas. Yet not for me as I do not like the 'click to create macro code'. They never have all the things I want and like to have my code in my syntax. But that's me.
Exactly what I thought for my first use case as a person who is not proeficient with pandas.
Looks really interesting. The GUI is purely built on ipywidgets correct ?
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Our main target user is a professional python data scientist that wants to be faster at data wrangling and visualization so that they can focus on understanding the data instead of coding the same pandas commands over and over again. That’s why bamboolib has both data transformation and exploration features included. In the future, we will provide more sophisticated features from which also more experienced data scie…
This doesn't accelerate professional data scientists. To me the only use of this tool is to make available the more complex uses of pandas to individuals without the background/understanding of how to wield those. But without that understanding, giving those people a UI of functions they have no understanding of is just a recipe for disaster. All these tools that aim to lower the barrier to entry for data science wit…
I can see use of the UI in a classroom setting to bridge the learning gap for people that are pretty proficient with the utility libraries like pandas offer, but lack the experience with Python and reading documentation at this point in time. I honestly fail to understand this critique, that sounds like saying we should ban Excel because people could use it to calculate something that doesn't make sense. It's not like pandas does something magical and every half decent Excel user understands the functionality behind the buttons I see in the bamboo demo linked here.
> The market for analysts who aren't also software engineers is shrinking to 0.
While I certainly get where this perspective might be coming from, I find it unlikely to be true. The recent acquisition of Tableau and growth of similar no-code tools shows that it's untrue from a business perspective (just read one of the HN threads on these topics, plenty of non-SE people making good use of them). Even from the code perspective, outside of production most of the data analysis code I see hardly shows any signs of good software engineering practice and yet fulfills the task it is written for.
If this is supposed to replace Microsoft Excel - Would an enterprise be willing to pay $500 / month for this thing instead of getting an entire Office Suite? I don't want to demean this amazing work but I think the user persona and the price for the tier seeming to be a mismatch.
Who is your target user? I think that if user is able to install jupyter notebook, pandas and load data with python, there is a high chance that user can also search pandas documentation and write few lines of code. Anyway, I like the idea of making UI for Pandas, but I think that there should be more comprehensive software to make data science easier for non-coders.
Our main target user is a professional python data scientist that wants to be faster at data wrangling and visualization so that they can focus on understanding the data instead of coding the same pandas commands over and over again. That’s why bamboolib has both data transformation and exploration features included. In the future, we will provide more sophisticated features from which also more experienced data scie…
If this doesn't work out commercially, would you consider open-sourcing it?
I am curious how many data scientists don't already have pipelines that do similar functions?
Looks great, but not a fan of the licensing model! $600/year for something thats 99% open source? https://bamboolib.8080labs.com/pricing/
So if I understand you correctly, you deem the price for the annual license too high? Could you elaborate on what you mean by 99% open source and how that relates to your perception of the price?
In this times is normal for companies to create their own products using open source products, but to some people is not very good seen.
In my case I think is not worth it a tool that only works in some specific environment, that doesn't have many functionalities, and it costs more than all the products of Jetbrains. I don't like either that is a tool built on top of open sources projects trying to charge a big amount while it does not have almost any functionality.
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So if I understand you correctly, you deem the price for the annual license too high? Could you elaborate on what you mean by 99% open source and how that relates to your perception of the price?
Because is mainly using Jupyter Notebook, Python and Pandas. In this times is normal for companies to create their own products using open source products, but to some people is not very good seen. In my case I think is not worth it a tool that only works in some specific environment, that doesn't have many functionalities, and it costs more than all the products of Jetbrains. I don't like either that is a tool built…
I really don't think that is correct. It integrates into those / builds on them, but those projects absolutely do not have the features that I can see playing around with this product.