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Re: Nike won’t sell directly to Amazon anymore

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Post by ceejayoz »

rimunroe wrote: post #28
davidhyde wrote: post #3

People don't mind buying from a vendor's site directly but the vendor should do their best to reduce the admin / pain of doing so. Some tips I wish vendors would follow: 1. Don't capture more information than is absolutely necessary for the transaction. 2. Don't force the user to sign up or join anything if they just want to buy something. 3. Don't automatically add the user to your newsletter and send their details…

I used Apple Pay on iOS to buy something direct from a vendor recently and was shocked at how smooth the purchase experience was. 1. Click "Buy with Apple Pay" button. 2. Double click power button on the side of my phone to confirm. I wish more sites would support it.

I wish there was a Firefox plugin that'd alert you that a site is checking for Apple Pay support and tell you, so I could switch into Safari briefly to do the purchase.

Re: Nike won’t sell directly to Amazon anymore

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Post by mikepurvis »

patwolfe wrote: post #36
dehrmann wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm slightly surprised there isn't room for a logistics company that can give smaller retailers Amazon-level efficiencies, but not have ecommerce ambitions, itself. And it should be branded (like Amazon Prime), not just someone in the backround, so people know it will ship quickly, arrive quickly, and have a good level of support.

Isn't this Shopify [0]? [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shopify

Sort of, but Shopify (at least last I checked) is only the storefront and credit card processing. Warehousing, inventory management, fulfillment, and shipping are all 100% still on the vendor.

EDIT: Looks like Shopify is indeed setting up its own fulfillment network, but it was only announced a few months ago and is likely some ways off from launching:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-06-19/shopify-s...

Re: Nike won’t sell directly to Amazon anymore

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Post by gamblor956 »

beerandt wrote: post #23
rubbingalcohol wrote: post #17

Amazon sells so many counterfeit Nike products that I've been using Nike and Adidas' online stores for quite awhile. Amazon is so bad when it comes to counterfeits that there are only two conditions that will lead me to purchase an item there anymore: - Either the item is listed as being sold by its original manufacturer and fulfilled by Amazon - Or I just need something and don't care if it's cheap Chinese crap I'm…

FBA is a red flag for co-mingled with counterfeits. At least with 3rd party shippers, (prime or not) you know exactly where it's coming from.

Unless it's sold by Amazon itself. Amazon is quite good at making sure their own inventory is never commingled with FBA inventory due to the risk of counterfeits infiltrating their inventory.

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Post by gamblor956 »

mumblemumble wrote: post #41
rubbingalcohol wrote: post #17

Amazon sells so many counterfeit Nike products that I've been using Nike and Adidas' online stores for quite awhile. Amazon is so bad when it comes to counterfeits that there are only two conditions that will lead me to purchase an item there anymore: - Either the item is listed as being sold by its original manufacturer and fulfilled by Amazon - Or I just need something and don't care if it's cheap Chinese crap I'm…

> - Either the item is listed as being sold by its original manufacturer and fulfilled by Amazon I wouldn't trust that one. Since Amazon co-mingles inventory, stuff that's sold by the original manufacturer but FBA could still get mixed up with counterfeit product. What you'd really want to do to make sure that it's coming from the original manufacturer is look for stuff that is sold by the original manufacturer and n…

No, Amazon segregates its own inventory from FBA inventory for items where Amazon.com is the seller. FBA inventory only gets commingled with other FBA inventory.

Supposedly Amazon now maintains separate inventories for each FBA vendor at some but not all of their distribution warehouses (like their San Bernardino facility).

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Post by sct202 »

gfo wrote: post #48
davidhyde wrote: post #3

People don't mind buying from a vendor's site directly but the vendor should do their best to reduce the admin / pain of doing so. Some tips I wish vendors would follow: 1. Don't capture more information than is absolutely necessary for the transaction. 2. Don't force the user to sign up or join anything if they just want to buy something. 3. Don't automatically add the user to your newsletter and send their details…

It surprises me the large shipping companies (UPS, Fedex) haven't pushed fulfillment to the level Amazon has. Frankly, I would be shopping directly through retailers more if I could get everything for free two-day shipping. I get part of that is funded through the Prime annual fee and Amazon's cut of the proceeds but given their large distribution networks I would think they could come to Amazon's level (but this als…

A lot of companies have 3 parties do all the fulfillment (warehouse/packaging) for them and then the carriers are always FedEx, UPS, USPS. I've pushed almost all my online shopping off of Amazon (except for Kindle books) and haven't really notice a drop in service or speed, except that the same day delivery isn't an option.

Re: Nike won’t sell directly to Amazon anymore

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Post by wil421 »

gamblor956 wrote: post #63
beerandt wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

FBA is a red flag for co-mingled with counterfeits. At least with 3rd party shippers, (prime or not) you know exactly where it's coming from.

Unless it's sold by Amazon itself. Amazon is quite good at making sure their own inventory is never commingled with FBA inventory due to the risk of counterfeits infiltrating their inventory.

I remember reading an article recently that said Amazon will use FBA products and replace them to make shipping faster. Especially if Amazon itself is out of the product.

Does anyone have a link or remember what I’m talking about?

Just checked and the only counterfeit product I’ve received was RAM and it was sold by Amazon.com. The box was not similar to the original and contained a foil space blanket.

Re: Nike won’t sell directly to Amazon anymore

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Post by mostlyjason »

wufufufu wrote: post #60

So in this world where every retailer does this I get to install N apps, re-enter my payment/shipping information N times, deal with N different return processes, update my credit card info N times when it changes, and have N questionably written systems know all my PII? I honestly much prefer shopping on the Nike app over Amazon, but I'm going to go to Amazon to buy whatever I found on that app.

If PayPal wasn’t such a crap company they’d be the perfect solution for this problem. Just enter your payment and shipping info once and get one click checkout on any site.

Re: Nike won’t sell directly to Amazon anymore

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Post by jcsnv »

davidhyde wrote: post #3

People don't mind buying from a vendor's site directly but the vendor should do their best to reduce the admin / pain of doing so. Some tips I wish vendors would follow: 1. Don't capture more information than is absolutely necessary for the transaction. 2. Don't force the user to sign up or join anything if they just want to buy something. 3. Don't automatically add the user to your newsletter and send their details…

I'd add make sure your site loads quickly. I tried buying something yesterday from an online vendor, but it took 10s+(!) just to load a product page. I eventually gave up after 2 minutes of frustration and bought from a competitor whose site loaded quickly.

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Post by yodon »

bliblah wrote: post #50
davidhyde wrote: post #3

People don't mind buying from a vendor's site directly but the vendor should do their best to reduce the admin / pain of doing so. Some tips I wish vendors would follow: 1. Don't capture more information than is absolutely necessary for the transaction. 2. Don't force the user to sign up or join anything if they just want to buy something. 3. Don't automatically add the user to your newsletter and send their details…

The issue is that Amazon and other 3rd party vendors actually offer deals. I was in the market for some headphones and had a specific brand and make in mind and when I looked in their site they were more than $100 more than Amazon. This has held true for me for a lot of items and even when using price tracker it is pretty much no contest to just buy off any reputable vendor most of the time. I think it's just that th…

If a manufacturer undercuts all their distributors, they stop having distributors.

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Post by ukyrgf »

anbotero wrote: post #30
davidhyde wrote: post #3

People don't mind buying from a vendor's site directly but the vendor should do their best to reduce the admin / pain of doing so. Some tips I wish vendors would follow: 1. Don't capture more information than is absolutely necessary for the transaction. 2. Don't force the user to sign up or join anything if they just want to buy something. 3. Don't automatically add the user to your newsletter and send their details…

You know who has to suffer from this? International buyers. I buy a lot from Amazon, and I live in Colombia. While these days there are a lot of direct, global shipments from Amazon, I still buy a lot of things I leave at my aunt's house in Miami by the time I travel to pick it all up. I remember not being able to buy a custom Converse shoe on their vendor site because I didn't have a local US credit card. I hate it,…

This is a really common fraud scheme. As an independent seller with little fraud protection, it's foolish to ship to an address that doesn't match the billing address.
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