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One Google Staffer Fired, Two Others Put on Leave Amid Tensions

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Re: One Google Staffer Fired, Two Others Put on Leave Amid Tensions

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How about everyone goes to work and does their job and goes home. You can believe X, I can believe Y, and both of us believe Z, but XYZ doesn’t have anything to do with doing our jobs so we shouldn’t let it prevent us from doing our jobs. Super cool that everyone likes their own things though, I support liking things unrelated to job, just weird that people demand that their job adheres to whatever weird thing they l…

Yes, this.

Politics in America runs about 50-50. Religion is similarly every person's preference.

Taking either of those to work is a formula for disaster. I'm just amazed that companies haven't done a better job of enforcing "Leave that at home" 'till now. It really wasn't a thing until a decade or so ago.

Re: One Google Staffer Fired, Two Others Put on Leave Amid Tensions

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Evolution has created the rules that one doesn't mix politics with business. This works until you must, by necessity, either mix work and politics or suffer some indignity. Advocating for parental leave? Politics. Mothers rooms? Politics. Prayer rooms? Politics. Trans inclusive health care? Politics. Domestic partner benefits? Politics. Unfortunately, for many folks politics at work is a reality whether they want t…

> Advocating for parental leave? Politics. Mothers rooms? Politics. Prayer rooms? Politics. Trans inclusive health care? Politics. Domestic partner benefits? Politics. Yep all politics. As political issues they should be dealt with in the political arena of whichever branch of government is responsible. If you strongly believe in these rights and priveleges you'd be spending your time advocating for universal access…

Companies should only do the minimum required by law? We only win if everyone gets the benefit?

I disagree, you are making perfect the enemy of good. The only solution is not "make the government mandate the solution".

Re: One Google Staffer Fired, Two Others Put on Leave Amid Tensions

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How about everyone goes to work and does their job and goes home. You can believe X, I can believe Y, and both of us believe Z, but XYZ doesn’t have anything to do with doing our jobs so we shouldn’t let it prevent us from doing our jobs. Super cool that everyone likes their own things though, I support liking things unrelated to job, just weird that people demand that their job adheres to whatever weird thing they l…

> You can believe X, I can believe Y, and both of us believe Z, but XYZ doesn’t have anything to do with doing our jobs so we shouldn’t let it prevent us from doing our jobs. It's easy to say this if your coworker likes football and you think sports are dumb. But what if your coworker likes attending KKK rallies and you're African-American? Or your co-worker is out there on the weekend holding signs that say "Death t…

>But what if your coworker likes attending KKK rallies and you're African-American? Or your co-worker is out there on the weekend holding signs that say "Death to Gays" and you just happen to be gay?

Yes yes, we can all dream up the very worst case scenario and other outliers. As someone else pointed out, companies generally have contract clauses that even govern social media whereby if you represent the company poorly you'll be fired. I'm sure that easily extends to your proposed sign waving homophobe.

The point the GP made was that most people have a lot more in common than they differ on, but in this hyper-politicized era those differences have been magnified to become an issue of pure division and likely shouldn't be brought into work with you.

Re: One Google Staffer Fired, Two Others Put on Leave Amid Tensions

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Interesting the arms race in the incognito browser wars. One day I can read Bloomberg for free incognito, the next day they detect it. Then a Chrome update and the cycle repeats. Firefox seems to be a little behind in the fight.

I do pay for sites I read on a regular basis. Can't justify a subscription for a once a month read, however. Maybe we need 99 cents per article model, kind of like buying songs on the old iTunes.

Re: One Google Staffer Fired, Two Others Put on Leave Amid Tensions

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

And what if you do not give HR access to your social media?

Let’s just say you can’t stop someone with administrative privileges.

Administrative privileges .... to what?

There's no single social media administrative privilege across platforms that I'm aware of.

Re: One Google Staffer Fired, Two Others Put on Leave Amid Tensions

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> The documents concerned a mandatory tool that was recently installed on the Google Chrome browser on workers’ computers, the employees said. In October, some Google employees raised concerns that the Chrome extension was an internal surveillance tool designed to monitor their attempts to organize protests. It would automatically report staffers who create a calendar event with more than 10 rooms or 100 participants…

Installing an extension to monitor employee use of a company computer is legal and generally accepted behavior. If the Google calendar is for a personal gmail account, then accessing the calendar details server side is a huge privacy breach.

But the account associated with reserving the rooms surely mitigates that privacy issue.

After all, the rooms belong to Google.

Re: One Google Staffer Fired, Two Others Put on Leave Amid Tensions

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> The documents concerned a mandatory tool that was recently installed on the Google Chrome browser on workers’ computers, the employees said. In October, some Google employees raised concerns that the Chrome extension was an internal surveillance tool designed to monitor their attempts to organize protests. It would automatically report staffers who create a calendar event with more than 10 rooms or 100 participants…

Installing an extension to monitor employee use of a company computer is legal and generally accepted behavior. If the Google calendar is for a personal gmail account, then accessing the calendar details server side is a huge privacy breach.

It’s not legal if employers specifically use it to disrupt employees’ attempts to organize. The NLRA specifically grants employees the right to organize and it prohibits employers from monitoring these organizing employees.

The fact that Google employees, in this case, may not be considering forming a union at this time is irrelevant. The meetings they are having may prompt them to form one at a later time. Either way, their freedom of association is protected.

Re: One Google Staffer Fired, Two Others Put on Leave Amid Tensions

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Is "Do No Evil" still a Google trademark? Seems like they've not used it for a long time so perhaps the TM expired.

No, they dropped it a few years ago

it was don't be evil and no they didn't drop it.

https://abc.xyz/investor/other/google-code-of-conduct/

it's at the bottom.

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