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Google Begins Testing Extension Manifest V3 in Chrome Canary

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Re: Google Begins Testing Extension Manifest V3 in Chrome Canary

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Post by mrtksn »

Mindwipe wrote: post #37
cromwellian wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple/Safari adopted pretty much the same architecture on Ad Blockers. Maybe just maybe the conspiracy theories are all wrong, and there was actually a legitimate, technical reason for choosing a restricted API.

Safari's limit is significantly higher, and bluntly nobody is using Safari because they think it gives them user freedom.

I use Safari because it gives me freedom. I paid Apple for their product, now I own the product. It works well except for some Chrome demo apps(which gives me the chills "For the best experience use Internet Explorer" == "Your browser is not supported, use Chrome 46 or newer")

What kind of freedom do Chrome users get?

Re: Google Begins Testing Extension Manifest V3 in Chrome Canary

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Post by appleflaxen »

saagarjha wrote: post #125
bambax wrote: post #50

> Simeon Vincent, a Google Developer Advocate for Chrome Extensions One has to love and admire the use of Newspeak by big companies... How is this Mr Vincent an "advocate"? He's in charge of destroying extensions! On his Twitter bio [1] he also says he likes "helping people" and "the open web". The cognitive dissonance must be hard to bear. [1] https://twitter.com/dotproto

Regardless of your opinion of his actions, attacking him here for being non-genuine doesn’t really help :/

his actions show he is disingenuous. you don't need to make any value judgements because his actions are inconsistent with his rhetoric.

Re: Google Begins Testing Extension Manifest V3 in Chrome Canary

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Post by 9dl »

jillesvangurp wrote: post #44

I find it interesting that Google thinks they are going to get away with this. I'm afraid they might be right. I've been on Firefox since they launched their quantum version a few years ago after a few years of using Chrome. I like Firefox but I notice a lot of people around me seem to default to Chrome. Things work well enough on Firefox that I don't consider compatibility a problem. But I do get a lot of raised eye…

You know, IE6 and especially 7 was very good, but...

Re: Google Begins Testing Extension Manifest V3 in Chrome Canary

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Post by jtbayly »

kretor wrote: post #49
me_me_me wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google is an advertisement company there is nothing conspiratorial about them using their market share to force ads on people. After all whats the point of supporting chrome if it sells no adds.

With Google's new API, all ads can still be blocked. There will be a limit for network request blocking rules, but it's very high so that normal users don't reach it. And for those that reach it, only network requests are affected, so adblockers can still use other APIs to hide the ads.

This is the first time I’ve heard the suggestion that there are ways around this by using other API’s. Can you elaborate?

Re: Google Begins Testing Extension Manifest V3 in Chrome Canary

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Post by NieDzejkob »

JulianMorrison wrote: post #83

They are being very stupid. Switching primary browser isn't trivial, but it's easier than wading through an ad-laden web. Goodbye Chrome, hello Firefox.

You're not their target. It's the less technical people they have in mind here.

Re: Google Begins Testing Extension Manifest V3 in Chrome Canary

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Post by GenericsMotors »

jruz wrote: post #19

Classic cat and mouse moves. Adblockers will move to OS level so google cant do anything about it. Pi-hole and Network level blockers should also see a rise.

I've already done this on my phone with Blokada. Don't have to worry about any ads regardless of the app, couldn't be happier with it.

Re: Google Begins Testing Extension Manifest V3 in Chrome Canary

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Post by iamgopal »

They don't realise how easy is to swtich, and ads already started to anoy almost all. Searching for Subscription model or other model is the key here. Apple with their lower price iPhone 11 sensed it, and acted to increase their service revenue while Google yet to have streamlined payment gateway let alone reliable subscription service product wide.

Re: Google Begins Testing Extension Manifest V3 in Chrome Canary

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Post by saagarjha »

EsssM7QVMehFPAs wrote: post #18

Couldn't some kind of graph compression algorithm preprocess the subscribed rulesets into what fits 30k rules? I have no idea about the domain but 30k rules seems more than sufficient to map from a 150k set of uncompressed wildcard patterns.

It would be hard but I think it might be possible, provided some time is put into coalescing rules in an efficient way. (I have done something similar and couldn’t quite manage to get it to fit, but I didn’t look at it for too long.) One issue that still remains relevant is that adblocking lists usually grow with time and require more features as ads evolve, so it’s not clear that the new API will continue to support this.

Re: Google Begins Testing Extension Manifest V3 in Chrome Canary

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Post by rusk »

bambax wrote: post #50

> Simeon Vincent, a Google Developer Advocate for Chrome Extensions One has to love and admire the use of Newspeak by big companies... How is this Mr Vincent an "advocate"? He's in charge of destroying extensions! On his Twitter bio [1] he also says he likes "helping people" and "the open web". The cognitive dissonance must be hard to bear. [1] https://twitter.com/dotproto

> The cognitive dissonance must be hard to bear.

While not wishing to speculate on specifics, there is medication in common circulation that can help with such inconvenient emotions.

Re: Google Begins Testing Extension Manifest V3 in Chrome Canary

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Post by bshacklett »

9dl wrote: post #123
square_usual wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can use Brave as your Chromium-based browser. It blocks ads natively, and I've not yet run into a site that required Chrome that didn't work on Brave.

Whut? Sites require chrome?

The web version of T-Mobile Digits is one I can think of off the top of my head.
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