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Google Begins Testing Extension Manifest V3 in Chrome Canary

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Re: Google Begins Testing Extension Manifest V3 in Chrome Canary

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Post by cherioo »

sha666sum wrote: post #24
cromwellian wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple/Safari adopted pretty much the same architecture on Ad Blockers. Maybe just maybe the conspiracy theories are all wrong, and there was actually a legitimate, technical reason for choosing a restricted API.

If there was, they could've communicated it clearly already a year ago. There is no reason to give Google the benefit of the doubt, since it's clear they're not trying to get it. If this rolls out, I'm going to very loudly tell my friends to use Fox, and not stop.

They have, https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nPu6Wy4LWR66EFLeYInl3Nzz..., and reading it I have always thought it makes sense, as much sense as why Safari decided to do it. However, I don't think I have ever thoughtful discussion why their intended goal (security and privacy) is wrong or could be done in other ways.

I feel sad that each time this comes up even on HN it's always "Google, ad company, bad". There's a mention elsewhere about 30k limit being limiting. Why aren't we discussing alternative enforcement metrics, and request for inclusion?

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Post by yipbub »

LeonM wrote: post #97

Wow, the amount of negativity here is awful. I looks like most commenters have not even read the article... First of all, the HN title is not the title of the article. HN mods, please change it to reflect the actual title of the article. Second, to me this does not seem as some attempt by Google to actively block Adblocker extensions. They are proposing a change to the API (Manifest) to no longer allow manipulation o…

The amount of negativity here is appropriate.

Re: Google Begins Testing Extension Manifest V3 in Chrome Canary

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Post by 9dl »

square_usual wrote: post #101
Ensorceled wrote: post #87

Like so many others on this thread, this is my push to go entirely back onto Firefox. I'll keep Chrome for the diminishing number of sites that don't like Firefox.

You can use Brave as your Chromium-based browser. It blocks ads natively, and I've not yet run into a site that required Chrome that didn't work on Brave.

Whut? Sites require chrome?

Re: Google Begins Testing Extension Manifest V3 in Chrome Canary

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Post by claudeganon »

pnako wrote: post #93
claudeganon wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Since Firefox is already dependent on Google for a great deal of their funding, I’d say the next phase in Google’s strategy will be scaling that back.

They still need to keep Firefox alive, because it allows them to control market concentration and avoid the antitrust issues that MS had to fight.

Google is already deeply in bed with the Democratic Party and has been buying up some just lovely Republicans at a good clip:

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ryanmac/google-miles-ta...

While I tend to agree with you about them keeping Firefox alive, my guess is that they’re becoming less concerned with a legitimate antitrust complaint and that this “alive” will end up being “just barely.”

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Post by saagarjha »

bambax wrote: post #50

> Simeon Vincent, a Google Developer Advocate for Chrome Extensions One has to love and admire the use of Newspeak by big companies... How is this Mr Vincent an "advocate"? He's in charge of destroying extensions! On his Twitter bio [1] he also says he likes "helping people" and "the open web". The cognitive dissonance must be hard to bear. [1] https://twitter.com/dotproto

Regardless of your opinion of his actions, attacking him here for being non-genuine doesn’t really help :/

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Post by XzetaU8 »

the8472 wrote: post #52
bufferoverflow wrote: post #36

That's how you make people switch to Firefox, Brave, Opera, etc.

The last two are chromium-based and thus will likely follow chrome's extension system too.

Can't comment for opera, brave however won't follow manifest v3 https://twitter.com/brave/status/1088914000379731970

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Post by [deleted] »

ajsnigrutin wrote: post #96
claudeganon wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Since Firefox is already dependent on Google for a great deal of their funding, I’d say the next phase in Google’s strategy will be scaling that back.

And other projects will apear, all the people that visit sites like this one here, will switch, and slowly transition their families. Majority will conitniue "suffering" since they already don't have adblocks installed.

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Re: Google Begins Testing Extension Manifest V3 in Chrome Canary

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Post by dividuum »

EsssM7QVMehFPAs wrote: post #18

Couldn't some kind of graph compression algorithm preprocess the subscribed rulesets into what fits 30k rules? I have no idea about the domain but 30k rules seems more than sufficient to map from a 150k set of uncompressed wildcard patterns.

"Nice ad blocker you still have working there. Would be a shame if this arbitrarily chosen limit of 30k would be reduced to 15k"

Re: Google Begins Testing Extension Manifest V3 in Chrome Canary

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Post by saagarjha »

9dl wrote: post #123
square_usual wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can use Brave as your Chromium-based browser. It blocks ads natively, and I've not yet run into a site that required Chrome that didn't work on Brave.

Whut? Sites require chrome?

Sadly, there are a number of websites that assume that Chrome is the only web browser and do not work properly in other browsers.
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