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> You have a right to live in Québec. But for the moment, not a right to demand that businesses or government agencies communicate with you in English. Just wow how utterly pissant.
Would you demand that businesses or government agencies communicate with you in English in Spain or China? If so, sure, you have a consistent position at least. If not, why is Quebec different?
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Saying anglophones built Quebec alongside the francophones sounds a bit like French people saying they built Algeria or Vietnam as a justification for not granting it independence. The reality is that the anglophones built Quebec because they were colonizing it, and without them the francophones would have "built Quebec" just as well.
The French started earnestly colonizing Quebec less than 100 years before the British conquest so that analogy does not seem apt at all...
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There already is a recurring pattern. Not exactly like this situation, but a pattern of discriminating against anything that is not French. It's getting completely out of hands. Soon, "non historic anglos" (ie immigrants) won't be allowed to get their hydro bill, correspondence from the government or any service in English. We moved out of Quebec mostly for the politics 5 years ago and I'm so glad I did. We're never…
The attitude you display in this post suggests that it's a good thing for everyone that you moved. Quebecers are actually very tolerant of Anglophones and while it is difficult to adapt to using a new language it is not impossible and is actually fun in many ways. French survives in a sea of anglophone hegemony only because of such language laws.
It kills innovation and economic development, and leads to the rampant religious discrimination and xenophobia now seen in the province.
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Would you demand that businesses or government agencies communicate with you in English in Spain or China? If so, sure, you have a consistent position at least. If not, why is Quebec different?
We are a bilingual country. The rest of Canada bends over backwards to offer services in French which are seldom utilized. I would not ask for English in Spain or China because it isn't an official language there. We have a national law that all students--anywhere in the country--can receive instruction in either English or French--but this has been consistently undermined in Quebec. They have made it so arduous to q…
Meanwhile no one wants to go to a French language CEGEP (years 11-13) because they need to learn English, and people in Ontario fight to get their kids into bilingual immersion schools.
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The attitude you display in this post suggests that it's a good thing for everyone that you moved. Quebecers are actually very tolerant of Anglophones and while it is difficult to adapt to using a new language it is not impossible and is actually fun in many ways. French survives in a sea of anglophone hegemony only because of such language laws.
>>Quebecers are actually very tolerant of Anglophones I can vouch for that - if you make any attempt at all to speak the most basic French they love you for making the attempt.
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Would you demand that businesses or government agencies communicate with you in English in Spain or China? If so, sure, you have a consistent position at least. If not, why is Quebec different?
Quebec is part of a BILINGUAL country, you dingus.
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That's just a plain lie. Sure, as for literally any other subject, you may find people with extreme views on the topic, but that's what they are: extreme. That doesn't make it the general consensus. Please stop spreading lies like this.
It's not a lie at all.
Edit: and, of course, this does not apply to tourists or visitors. This point is about people who want to live in Quebec.
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>>Quebecers are actually very tolerant of Anglophones I can vouch for that - if you make any attempt at all to speak the most basic French they love you for making the attempt.
Try wearing a turban.
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Would you demand that businesses or government agencies communicate with you in English in Spain or China? If so, sure, you have a consistent position at least. If not, why is Quebec different?
We are a bilingual country. The rest of Canada bends over backwards to offer services in French which are seldom utilized. I would not ask for English in Spain or China because it isn't an official language there. We have a national law that all students--anywhere in the country--can receive instruction in either English or French--but this has been consistently undermined in Quebec. They have made it so arduous to q…
Citation needed. Federal government offers services in French almost everywhere, as it offers services in English even in areas where almost no one speaks it.
But provincial services? There's just nothing. Ontario struggles to keep higher education and health services in French, and this is the province with the highest number of French speakers outside Quebec. There is a party in New Brunswick explicitly against providing services in French and they got 13% of the vote in the last election (reminder, New Brunswick is the only province to be officially bilingual).
So I am highly skeptical of your stance about the rest of Canada "bending over backward" to offer services in French...
Quebec language rules and the minions that enforce them can be quite pathetic. Just a couple of months ago, the debate be was about the right of shop-keepers being able to greet their customers in both English and French, or only in French. Totally ridiculous. I am also a native French speaker from Europe, and left Montreal because of the backward mentality. I totally respect Quebec’s need to protect their heritage,…
Why would you get to decide which French is the good French? Formal register Quebec French is totally fine. Of course, on the street you can hear pretty deformed French, but guess what: in France too. That's just how language registers work.