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Re: Visual Studio online available for public preview

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I love the Remote SSH extension for VSCode (save for the frustrating workarounds necessary for ssh-agent forwarding -- an absolutely necessary feature) and expected VSO to be much more streamlined. But I find myself hitting early walls:

- No documentation on how to clone a private github repo, gitlab repo, etc.

- Cloning a private repo on the command line eschews the ability to bootstrap your VSO instance using the in-repo config, which kills a huge benefit of this product

- No documentation on forwarding ssh-agent or injecting RSA keys of any kind

There are some other needs addressed in other comment threads (particularly registering a remote headless box as a VSO machine) but the above are instant showstoppers. Perhaps this works with private Azure DevOps repos because of the login integration? I'd be willing to wager that the majority of folks interested in this are on other repo hosts, though.

Re: Visual Studio online available for public preview

#113
post #93

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This is from the company that came up with .NET to describe an intermediate bytecode and runtime. Then later made a new thing called .NET Core which was the same as .NET Framework but more multi platform. Which was confusing so they came up with .NET Standard which was an interface describing compatibility between the other two .NETs They have their top people working on the .NET jit and compiler, and the VS Code edi…

My favorite is their cloud platform, Azure, named after the color of a clear blue sky.

Personally, I low how they used the name C# for two completely different languages (https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/ricom/2009/10/05/my-history...).

Re: Visual Studio online available for public preview

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> the Visual Studio Online team...VS Code... So this is NOT Visual Studio but rather VSCode? Do you have insight into why Microsoft keeps making misleading product names? Would it be so horrible to name it VSCode Online instead of Visual Studio Online? > Let us know if you have any questions The website says "Use the programming languages and frameworks of your choice". Will that include building and debugging C++ Wi…

>So this is NOT Visual Studio but rather VSCode? Well I just tried it and it's aimed at the feel of VSCode. >Microsoft keeps making misleading product names What's with the hostility?

> What's with the hostility?

Trying to work in this world, and keep up with what I'm supposed to be using for the platform and application in question. As programmers, we expect some level of complexity, but when Microsoft's lead tech evangelist feels the need to make multiple posts to explain the situation with the product lines, it might have gotten a little out of hand.

Re: Visual Studio online available for public preview

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Any plans to support Firefox?

Yep! This is a high-priority, and you can keep track of progress on this GitHub issue: https://github.com/MicrosoftDocs/vsonline/issues/34 .

I wonder why do you prioritize support of googlenet browser and leave Firefox for later, while google is a main competitor of Microsoft?

Re: Visual Studio online available for public preview

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post #115

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Yep! This is a high-priority, and you can keep track of progress on this GitHub issue: https://github.com/MicrosoftDocs/vsonline/issues/34 .

I wonder why do you prioritize support of googlenet browser and leave Firefox for later, while google is a main competitor of Microsoft?

Because the new Edge browser is Chrome for all intents and purposes

Re: Visual Studio online available for public preview

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post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is from the company that came up with .NET to describe an intermediate bytecode and runtime. Then later made a new thing called .NET Core which was the same as .NET Framework but more multi platform. Which was confusing so they came up with .NET Standard which was an interface describing compatibility between the other two .NETs They have their top people working on the .NET jit and compiler, and the VS Code edi…

My favorite is their cloud platform, Azure, named after the color of a clear blue sky.

Not to be confused with their upcoming Kinect Azure: https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/services/kinect-dk/

Re: Visual Studio online available for public preview

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post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is from the company that came up with .NET to describe an intermediate bytecode and runtime. Then later made a new thing called .NET Core which was the same as .NET Framework but more multi platform. Which was confusing so they came up with .NET Standard which was an interface describing compatibility between the other two .NETs They have their top people working on the .NET jit and compiler, and the VS Code edi…

And that is all before you get to the frameworks. The latest "ASP" framework is called "ASP.NET Core" which succeeded "ASP.NET 4" and confusingly is available for both ".NET Framework" and ".NET Core".

The cherry on top is what they plan on calling the next major release. You guessed it! .NET 6.

Re: Visual Studio online available for public preview

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post #115

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Yep! This is a high-priority, and you can keep track of progress on this GitHub issue: https://github.com/MicrosoftDocs/vsonline/issues/34 .

I wonder why do you prioritize support of googlenet browser and leave Firefox for later, while google is a main competitor of Microsoft?

The standard version of VS Code is built in Electron, which runs on Chrome.

Re: Visual Studio online available for public preview

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Simple observation that VSO used to be the name of what is today Azure Devops, which is at its 3rd rename (vsts, ado). Reusing the name of a past product for a new product that is not entirely related is pretty confusing.

Interestingly enough, many people thought the original VSO was an online web IDE. And so in this case, we decided that it made sense to re-purpose the brand for a product that met many people’s expectations. Visual Studio Online: This time, it’s for real!

Except it's not really Visual Studio, but Visual Studio Code.
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