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Agreed. I thought I was a really good programmer leaving university. Now I know I was useless the first 3 years. I only became someone I would consider hiring now after 5-7 years.
You should have aged out by 5-7 years.
Lots of Job Hunting, but No Job, Despite Low Unemployment
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Re: Lots of Job Hunting, but No Job, Despite Low Unemployment
#142Individual experiences are interesting, but not automatically indicative of a trend. Maybe she's just terrible in interviews? I've certainly interviewed people that were obviously intelligent, but paralyzed with nervousness. Tried compensating, but the situation was too far gone to salvage.
He ended up being a very valuable and (and liked) employee for like 7 years.
And that nervousness - not really visible at all, after he got to know the people at our site.
So: My recommendation if you think have a potentially great but also very nervous job candidate: Take your time. Change the scenery. Etc.
(In this particular case I was pretty sure he was smart, just based on his application.)
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Somewhat ironic since we were told in no uncertain terms that automation would cause the exact opposite to happen.
Capitalism sees most the productivity gains to the workers. I think our experiment has failed and it is time to try capitalism again. Our country hasn't seen it for over 100 years.
...at least that's the knee-jerk defense you hear from the priests of our current system (most mislead or benefiting from the corruption). If you don't support our current broken form of capitalism, you're labeled a blasphemer.
Heaven forbid we, as a society, re-evaluate the functionality of something adopted hundreds of years ago and adapt/change it without offering an impossibly proven successful alternative. Because, you know, the current economic system we have was proven successful before it was adopted.
It won't necessarily be trivial or painless but it will be less painful than it will at a later date, unless we want to pass the burden down to future generations.
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#144Earlier quoted context omitted.
And what do you propose we do about that?
I have no idea. Wealth transfer? Training programs? Basic income?
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#145Earlier quoted context omitted.
You have a common misconception: College / university is not a place to directly learn how to do a job. In the US, we have the term "trade school" for institutions that instruct people in skills needed for a career. (Usually people go to trade school instead of college.) Going to college is about getting an education, it's not directly preparing you for a specific career. You're expected to learn enough about a subje…
I'm beginning to notice one cause on why it's tough to find a job. People have pretty strong opinions (and that includes me, and your particular comment also seems pretty strong in its opinion). I'm not sure how it ties in yet, but I think the strong opinions differ a lot. Thanks for the food for thought. I kind of know what you mean with the "smell" thing. It's also clearly visible when I go to a company that I have…
It's not really a cultural fit.
I'll try to say it differently: Sometimes I suspect that candidates are struggling with mental health issues. It's not why we (the company) rejected those candidates. (We reject them because they can't do the job.) But, I suspect if those candidates took care of their mental health issues, they would be stronger candidates overall.
[Edit] I'm not a doctor, so it's not my place to judge or diagnose anybody for their mental health issues.
Re: Lots of Job Hunting, but No Job, Despite Low Unemployment
#146In my early (okay... mid) thirties now. I have been laid off once and left on my own will from three jobs through the last 12 years of my career. Being laid off puts kind of a stink on you, even if slight, that requires a bit of interview time be spent clarifying WHY you got laid off instead of entirely being able to focus on experience, accomplishments etc. When I was moving from one place to another, there seemed t…
I've spent far more time on the interviewer side of the table than the interviewee and I can promise we all have some stink on us :)
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"Service" roles have been put in a weird state where, because they involve relating to humans, they're difficult to automate. But because they involve doing what you're told, with low room for autonomy and creativity, they're low-status and therefore low paid.
> they're low-status and therefore low paid. Pretty sure it's mostly the other way: They're low status because they're low paid. Jobs are low paid when there is a big supply of people who can and want to do them. Which is pretty much equivalent to the jobs being low skilled. Since everyone can flip a burger, you don't have to pay much to find someone to do it.
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#148Earlier quoted context omitted.
Capitalism sees most the productivity gains to the workers. I think our experiment has failed and it is time to try capitalism again. Our country hasn't seen it for over 100 years.
That sounds like communist socialist facist nazi etc. propaganda to me... ...at least that's the knee-jerk defense you hear from the priests of our current system (most mislead or benefiting from the corruption). If you don't support our current broken form of capitalism, you're labeled a blasphemer. Heaven forbid we, as a society, re-evaluate the functionality of something adopted hundreds of years ago and adapt/cha…
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I had the same problem in Canada. Then I moved to the US. Now I have recruiters begging me to come work at their company at least once a week. You should move to the US, it'll be much easier to find work
How do you manage living in US. HN tells me that living here is terrible in every possible way compare to Canada and even more terrible compare to Europe?
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#150Earlier quoted context omitted.
I have no idea. Wealth transfer? Training programs? Basic income?
So, in order: 1. Stealing from Peter to pay Paul 2. Good idea. Make it happen. 3. Also stealing, but if it were to replace the system we have now (which won’t happen) it would at least be more efficient.