I'm honestly experiencing this as a CS grad in the Dutch job market. I find it weird and frustrating. I've noticed why: 1. Companies don't dare to value creativity [1]. University is so liberal and the job market is so the opposite. 2. Most companies can't value a CS degree. The exception is when enough people in the company did a CS degree and that's a lot more rare than I thought. 3. University didn't teach me to f…
How many apps did you submit? I'm curious on those numbers myself, not that I'm a Dutch CS grad (American epidemiology, actually), but it'd still be interesting to see that.
>nearly 40 percent of Americans, a Federal Reserve report found, are in such a financially precarious state that they say they would have trouble finding $400 for an unexpected expense like a car repair or a medical bill. This has got to be the most repeated statistic in reporting on hardship, but the actual responses seem way less dire: https://twitter.com/p_millerd/status/1118071142311288838?lan...
Agreed, especially considering 1 in 6 millennials have $100k saved. https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/05/1-in-6-millennials-have-1000...
Somewhat ironic since we were told in no uncertain terms that automation would cause the exact opposite to happen.
"Service" roles have been put in a weird state where, because they involve relating to humans, they're difficult to automate. But because they involve doing what you're told, with low room for autonomy and creativity, they're low-status and therefore low paid.
> they're low-status and therefore low paid.
Pretty sure it's mostly the other way: They're low status because they're low paid.
Jobs are low paid when there is a big supply of people who can and want to do them. Which is pretty much equivalent to the jobs being low skilled.
Since everyone can flip a burger, you don't have to pay much to find someone to do it.
> nobody cares that I fast-tracked In fact, if fast-tracking cost you even 1/10 of a GPA point, it is actively hurting you - if they’re comparing somebody with a 3.9 GPA to somebody with a 4.0 GPA, whether the second candidate got that extra 0.1 because he was only taking one class per semester doesn’t come into consideration.
High GPAs count against you. That has been my experience.
How does that work? "Oh, you have a high GPA, clearly you're too theoretical."
For the CRUD type jobs I've worked on, database design and understanding of SQL and ORM frameworks probably helped get me in. Are you strong or lacking there? Try programming a blog from scratch.
I've taught how to program a blog from scratch. I the code on my machine and could post it on Github. I never knew people cared. Thanks for pointing it out so clearly. Some nuance: I'm a CS grad, so this perspective is relative to that. Weak: SQL optimization, I have no clue. Mediocre: SQL itself, I understand everything at sqlteaching.com and I never had an issue at work doing SQL. Strong-ish: ORMs, read the API doc…
SQL optimization is a bit overrated, IMO. I code in SQL and R daily, and my experience is that most SQL scripts, it doesn't matter if it takes 6 seconds or 60 seconds. What matters is deeply understanding what your row is, how to join other data onto those rows, and how to effectively communicate/analyze the data after you get your final dataset. If you can't do the last step, it doesn't matter how fast your code runs, unless you're specifically tasked with speeding up legacy code or something like that.
>nearly 40 percent of Americans, a Federal Reserve report found, are in such a financially precarious state that they say they would have trouble finding $400 for an unexpected expense like a car repair or a medical bill. This has got to be the most repeated statistic in reporting on hardship, but the actual responses seem way less dire: https://twitter.com/p_millerd/status/1118071142311288838?lan...
Agreed, especially considering 1 in 6 millennials have $100k saved. https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/05/1-in-6-millennials-have-1000...
Individual experiences are interesting, but not automatically indicative of a trend. Maybe she's just terrible in interviews? I've certainly interviewed people that were obviously intelligent, but paralyzed with nervousness. Tried compensating, but the situation was too far gone to salvage.
Hire them :) you'll have shorter meetings and they don't job hop as much
>nearly 40 percent of Americans, a Federal Reserve report found, are in such a financially precarious state that they say they would have trouble finding $400 for an unexpected expense like a car repair or a medical bill. This has got to be the most repeated statistic in reporting on hardship, but the actual responses seem way less dire: https://twitter.com/p_millerd/status/1118071142311288838?lan...
Agreed, especially considering 1 in 6 millennials have $100k saved. https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/05/1-in-6-millennials-have-1000...
Great, now they just need to save another $200k and they'll have the down payment on a median priced home!
Right! Engineers driving busses; office managers flipping burgers. And the administration dares to call it 'full employment'. Its part of the very wealthy keeping all the money - if nobody has a skilled job, we don't get (much) income, and wealth inequality zooms onward. A better measure of employment would be, how much total payroll is across the country. Per capita if you like. That would tell us how we're doing. N…
I don’t know any engineers driving busses (or the equivalent). The company I’m working for is currently looking for a lot of new ones, too.
Whoops, I thought we were discussing our personal experiences, not just whining about “the system”. My bad.
I'm honestly experiencing this as a CS grad in the Dutch job market. I find it weird and frustrating. I've noticed why: 1. Companies don't dare to value creativity [1]. University is so liberal and the job market is so the opposite. 2. Most companies can't value a CS degree. The exception is when enough people in the company did a CS degree and that's a lot more rare than I thought. 3. University didn't teach me to f…
I think 1. companies are burned out with CS grads who simply can't code 2. companies are burned out from new employees just learning the job and then jump somewhere else and 3. companies are looking to on-board you as fast as possible. A few problems you should be working on: > nobody cares that I fast-tracked > in terms of crystalized intelligence > But my portfolio is rather terrible > compared to what I'm capable…
Agreed.
I thought I was a really good programmer leaving university.
Now I know I was useless the first 3 years. I only became someone I would consider hiring now after 5-7 years.