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Leonard Kleinrock on what went wrong with the internet
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Re: Leonard Kleinrock on what went wrong with the internet
#72Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes, this is a common topic between my girlfriend and me. Internet as we know it (we grew up in the 2000s with MSN, forums, etc) doesnt exist anymore. First (at least for us, for other people there would be another "first") were the basic webpages done in Frontpage or Dreamweaver (if you had enough RAM), uploaded to free webservers like Tripod, Lycos, Geocities, copying and pasting scripts found out there to remove p…
People still run blogs. People still run their own forums. Nothing is "lost", there is just a whole lot of new things that apparently don't interest you as much. Personally, I can't really say that I miss any of the sites designed like they were in the 90s, with their ever-rotating GIFs, Flash-based intro pages, "Designed for Netscape" badges. And does an influencer need to have his/her own website? Not more than an…
> there is just a whole lot of new things that apparently doesn't interest you as much.
Or these new things interest them more and they don't like it. Like a frustrating addiction.
Re: Leonard Kleinrock on what went wrong with the internet
#73I think it can be boiled down to an even simpler statement. The internet got big enough to matter. As with all things that matter, people will try to monetize them, disrupt them, destroy them, and abuse them.
Even with all that, it still matters, we just have to really watch where we step.
Re: Leonard Kleinrock on what went wrong with the internet
#74If anything, the presence of the "dark side" is proof that their creation is a massive success. Without it, we would not have truly free and anonymous exchange of information, which is what qualifies the internet as the greatest invention of mankind. I can carry a device around that had the ability to access the sum total of human knowledge
Re: Leonard Kleinrock on what went wrong with the internet
#75It feels like author is depressed. It's a bit sad to read. He manages to pull so much negativity out of the things that are generally have a net-positive impact, things that drive the progress, that are progress. Disappointing article. I don't need this negativity in my life.
Progress for a select few, for everyone else things are going backwards. Life expectancy and quality of life is doing nothing but going down year after year in the United States. If you're one of the few privileged elites who benefited from the internet, congrats! You're a very small minority.
*Life expectancy has done nothing but go down year after year /after year/.
Let's not undersell this, it has been 3 years.
Re: Leonard Kleinrock on what went wrong with the internet
#76I'm reminded of the Douglas Adams' quote from Hitchikers Guide to the Galaxy Meanwhile, the poor Babel fish, by effectively removing all barriers to communication between different races and cultures, has caused more and bloodier wars than anything else in the history of creation.
Formatted for mobile: > Meanwhile, the poor Babel fish, by effectively removing all barriers to communication between different races and cultures, has caused more and bloodier wars than anything else in the history of creation.
Thank you. I'd imagine a bot that does the same wouldn't be popult with the mods?
Re: Leonard Kleinrock on what went wrong with the internet
#77Earlier quoted context omitted.
> we don't even link to other websites anymore. Meaning, there is no WWW anymore. (Just a bunch of isolated load-on-demand apps distributed by a network.) Edit: Is this why Google Chrome is hiding the "www." sub-domain prefix, because it doesn't apply anymore? ;-)
Google is a driving force behind the destruction of the web. They like the content they do not like the links. The best way for the web to develop from Googles point of view is if we all consume just the content that Google forwards us to without horizontal bridges between pages. So that's why you will see Google push to reduce the importance of URLs and why Google will - shamelessly - lift content of other websites…
> They like the content they do not like the links.
I'm not disagreeing with your appraisal - in fact I probably agree with it - but I do find it deeply and painfully ironic to read, given the entire foundation of Google's being - PageRank - is based on analyses of the web of other people's links.
It seems like the parasite doesn't realise the damage it's causing the host.
Re: Leonard Kleinrock on what went wrong with the internet
#78"You should be able to clearly articulate your preferred privacy policy and reject websites that don’t meet your standards." It occurs to me that this could be a rough description of ad blocking extensions, although rather like the Aldous Huxley quote about means determining ends, ad blockers are the result of an adversarial relationship rather than a consensual one.
Adversarial interoperability is all about rejecting the website's terms instead of the website itself.
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2019/06/adversarial-interopera... https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2019/07/adblocking-how-about-n...
Re: Leonard Kleinrock on what went wrong with the internet
#79Earlier quoted context omitted.
Can confirm, does not scroll with Firefox 70 (it has add-ons like uBlock Origin and Ghostery). Reader mode works fine.
same, thanks for the tip about reader mode, i always forget about that.
In case that Firefox does not offer the icon to open reader mode for a page, you can visit it in reader mode by manually prepending about:reader?url= to the URL.
Re: Leonard Kleinrock on what went wrong with the internet
#80Earlier quoted context omitted.
People still run blogs. People still run their own forums. Nothing is "lost", there is just a whole lot of new things that apparently don't interest you as much. Personally, I can't really say that I miss any of the sites designed like they were in the 90s, with their ever-rotating GIFs, Flash-based intro pages, "Designed for Netscape" badges. And does an influencer need to have his/her own website? Not more than an…
I think maybe they're bemoaning the dichotomy between increased access and apparent decreased use of the internet for creation of content by ordinary users -- or at least content that's not being exploited for advertising/marketing? I'd warrant a tiny fraction of users have their own blogs now compared to a decade ago?
But that was apparent from the get-go. Most people just want to consume. In the early years, "going online" already took some effort or knowledge - only as it became gradually easier did the large swathes of consumers join.
If you lived through Eternal September, you kind of knew this was coming.
But again, just because plenty of people consume, and plenty of companies cater mostly to the consumers, doesn't mean there isn't another world out there for those who look.