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Post by [deleted] »

unlinked_dll wrote: post #158
rollinDyno wrote: post #107

Can we talk about how smooth and beautiful the website is? I know, it's Apple and their websites are always the same, but there's always a tiny increment. This time it's the woman adjusting the ANC by holding her Airpods. The way she fades in and the scroll controls her every movement and then fades out is just so smooth.

It made it difficult for me to read the content, and lagged/stuttered on my Macbook Pro. Not to mention taking up a whole screen for a single marketing sentence is obnoxious. As someone who buys a lot of "pro" labeled audio gear, the only thing I care about is a bullet point list of specs. I've seen enough snake oil to ignore marketing materials for consumer audio products. But I get why Apple doesn't do that off the…

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Post by Marsymars »

peatmoss wrote: post #144
petra wrote: post #104

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Standard bluetooth has pretty bad quality. But Android has the AptXHD standard, for high quality wireless earphones. That's what we should compare this to.

What’s the max bitrate for recent bluetooth standards? I hate the idea of layering compression on top of compression. I just haven’t found anything that compares to a modest pair of cans with any kind of okay DAC/amplifier.

aptX HD and LDAC are good, with bitrates of 576 kbps/990 kbps. The bigger problem with sound quality is that for any given price tier, adding Bluetooth comes with a significant compromise in SQ versus offerings that are optimized for only SQ.

Bluetooth also caps out at roughly the midrange for headphones. High-end bluetooth Bluetooth headphones are technically possible, but nobody makes anything equivalent to say, the Focal Clear, but with Bluetooth.

At home I use the Sennheiser RS 185, Sennheiser's top-end RF (non-Bluetooth) wireless headphones. I love them, but realistically, the sound quality is on par with $200 wired headphones.

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Post by sandyarmstrong »

wingerlang wrote: post #28
pcora wrote: post #14

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Me too! No clue why they keep doing that!

I tried the site on macbook touchpad and iPhone X, works _very_ well. Maybe the directly targeted audience use one of these? I have no interest in AirPods but I think the page is super nicely done. Not something I'd like for every product I look at ever, but as a sort of unveiling I think is is nicer than a spec sheet.

Yeah I'm sure it's lovely with a touchpad or touchscreen! I can't say I'm a huge fan of that style even with those input devices, but I can appreciate what they're going for.

I just wish a little attention was paid when other input devices are being used.

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Post by the_watcher »

_bxg1 wrote: post #105
whalesalad wrote: post #8

I really struggled to take the plunge on the original AirPods and it has been one of my top 10 purchases ever in my life without a doubt. I stood there holding the little $200 box in my hand and really danced back and forth in my mind about whether or not they would really be necessary. If they broke, I would go buy a new pair immediately. For what they are, the sound is amazing. I can't really do a phone call anymor…

> I am not in the market for anything like this, since I have the high-end spectrum covered w/ some Sony over the ear noise cancelling cans but if I was I would give these a shot in a new york minute. Like the first-gen AirPods, I think having noise-cancelling in this form factor is a game-changer. All other noise-cancelling headphones, as far as I know, are either bulky on-ears or earbuds with a brick that dangles a…

Do you have a recommendation for sleep headphones that don't hurt your ears or fall out? I'm a side sleeper, so I've always found the ear I'm sleeping on to get irritated.

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Post by fragmede »

lfowles wrote: post #136
_bxg1 wrote: post #105

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> I am not in the market for anything like this, since I have the high-end spectrum covered w/ some Sony over the ear noise cancelling cans but if I was I would give these a shot in a new york minute. Like the first-gen AirPods, I think having noise-cancelling in this form factor is a game-changer. All other noise-cancelling headphones, as far as I know, are either bulky on-ears or earbuds with a brick that dangles a…

All active noise cancelling headphones just hurt my ears after extended periods of time.

I agree. Thankfully the Bose app allows that to be turned off when it gets to be too much for me, though the office is worse without the Bose cancelling, at least it stops killing my brain.

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Post by mikestew »

ProfessorLayton wrote: post #80

I have a pair of AirPods, and I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t disappointed with them, the main reason being that they just don’t seem to fit in my ears very well, needing constant readjustment. Further, the sound quality is no better than the pair that comes with the iPhone that can be purchased for $29. I also find the nfc pairing nice, but also frustrating when it fails, and extra annoying when trying to check batt…

the main reason being that they just don’t seem to fit in my ears very well, needing constant readjustment

The fix for that is the PowerBeats Pro. I know, I know, another $250. But they took AirPods and put on earhooks and rubber tips. Same W1 chip, so you get the pairing/switching convenience. They sound better than AirPods, too.

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Post by somehnguy »

mcculley wrote: post #103
s3r3nity wrote: post #20

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I've had the OG Airpods since release, and haven't had to replace battery. Not sure how often you use yours, but I'm on maybe 1-2 hrs a day and still can go almost a week between needing to charge.

I use mine every day for at least an hour of running. Yesterday they ran out of power at just over two hours of running. I have had mine for a couple of years now. I’m looking forward to buying these new ones as they are water resistant and the original model is not, requiring me to dry the sweat off of them very carefully.

They don't advertise the water resistance but I run with mine drenched in sweat and have never had an issue. I also put them through the washer and dryer (not in the case) and they work fine almost a year later. I wouldn't worry about carefully drying them..

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Post by riffraff »

Matt3o12_ wrote: post #59
riffraff wrote: post #25

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what convenience? I do not understand the appeal of air pods over any other wireless earplug.

They are incredibly convenient if you use multiple apple devices. You can change from your iPhone to Mac/iPad and watch almost seemingly. with traditional Bluetooth headphones it’s always a hassle to change devices. I either have to press buttons on the headphones and it doesn’t work well with more then two devices or I have to disconnect them manually from my device and open Bluetooth on the other. Connecting to a d…

I see, thanks for the explanation, I can see how that might be useful.

Not having an iPad, I always got by with having a single set of earphones plugged in my work machine, and bluetooth ones for my phone, which I use for running.

I can imagine having many more devices and using the same set for all could be preferable.

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Post by drusepth »

x0x0 wrote: post #87
freeqaz wrote: post #75

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I find that I can't use them for phone calls because the other person always complains that my mic is terrible. Is this because of using an Android device? They also don't stay in my ears for the life of me, so exercising at the gym I have to use over-the-ear headphones. I think this impacts the sound for me, as well, since they sound better when I hold them in my ear versus when I let go. Any recommendations for wha…

I've had good success with Jabra 65t on Android. Probably 1k hours of calls and no complaints except in very high wind. Oh, btw, the connection is very dependent on your Android phone. Bluetooth is in year ~20 of widespread alpha testing and Android implementations vary. I initially had an HTC; it had bluetooth issues. I'm now on a Google-made phone and it's seamless. Anecdotally, Samsungs work well too.

I've also got the Jabra 65t on Android and would completely recommend. I've used some AirPods that my family owns and I find the audio quality better on the Jabras. Never used the mic on either, though.

With a Pixel 3a I also have had zero Bluetooth connection issues; I keep it paired to both my 3a and my laptop and it works flawlessly, including switching between devices as needed.

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