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I will personally love to see someone justify spending $250 on wireless earphones whose batteries cannot be replaced. I'm a year and a half into my normal airpods and they already need new batteries.

If you look at through the lens of cost per use. 1-2 dollars a day isn’t that bad.

If you look at it through the lens of cost selling weapons to saudi arabia and burning fossil fuel is somewhere on the top of the list too.

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I will personally love to see someone justify spending $250 on wireless earphones whose batteries cannot be replaced. I'm a year and a half into my normal airpods and they already need new batteries.

What's killing me is the doublespeak. "We must be eco friendly ! we must save the world ! climate change bad ! look at our renewable energy data centers ! yay !" and then they ship you products that are either unfixable or you need to replace half the product to change the broken part.

Is there some type of battery technology out there that would be better? The batteries are half the product.

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This is such a bad frame of mind if you're someone who owns more than a dorm room of stuff. I used to feel like this about stuff. "Oh it's just $100 and we use it every day, totally okay to replace every few years." But it adds up when you start having to replace 100 different "it's pretty cheap given how often we use it" items in a year. And it's not just the cost. It's also the time you commit to being a consumer.…

Is the cumulative time spent screwing around reading reviews, comparing brands and choosing products more than the time spent replacing broken things? Just buying the cheapest thing that does what you are looking for saves a heck of a lot of time. Everybody loves to go on about quality but quality doesn't always pan out in terms of time or money cost. There's plenty of cases where some thing you've bought will meet i…

I've tried all kinds of strategies.

A simple approach is to just pull the trigger quickly on whatever has a million 5 star reviews and looks acceptable and is cheap. This feels environmentally offensive. Throwing away something that 99% works with one broken part. I feel sick when I have to do this.

Another approach is to try to get something expensive but durable and fixable. Unfortunately we live in a crappy future where nobody has any pride anymore and nothing's built to last decades. I have a 30 year old jigsaw I got from my grandfather and I frickin' love it.

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I will personally love to see someone justify spending $250 on wireless earphones whose batteries cannot be replaced. I'm a year and a half into my normal airpods and they already need new batteries.

We already went through the "why buy an X whose batteries can't be replaced" when the iPhone showed up. Same reasoning: between smaller size, greater capacity, less breakage, and wanting a reason to buy the new model ~2 years hence, most are happy to replace devices over dead fixed batteries.

I'm on conference calls >4 hours daily. Wore out my AirPods series 1 set, bought a replacement series 2 (wireless charging) set a couple months ago, no question would have ordered the Pro today if not having just bought the series 2.

Compact convenience has its own value.

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#156
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I have no problem with the AirPods being highly integrated, nor did I inherently think dropping the 3.5mm jack was an issue. Working wireless is a lot better. But I do really wish Apple would make the W1 chips and associated stack generally available to 3rd parties, that's what really got lost in the transition and they were wrong to keep vertical. Their strategy has surely sold more AirPods, but they will never be a…

Can you elaborate a bit on the reasons for this? I don't disagree... but what capabilities are lacking in regular hardware that this chip provides? I ask because initially the Sony WH-1000XM3 over-ears I use at home when working in my office (or on a plane) were initially using the lower quality SBC standard and with some kung fu I was able to get them working with higher quality AAC on my Mac.

There are some features of AirPods that are only available on Apple devices. Off the top of my head those are:

- Easy Pairing (if you just open the case next to an iphone, a dialog box comes up where you can just tap 'pair' and you're done)

- Automatic Pause (if you remove an ear, it pauses it)

- Reassign touch gestures

- Audio Sharing

- Ability to choose which ear's microphone you wish to use

- Lossless audio quality

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#157
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Anecdote: my OG AirPods still have great battery. How often do you use them during the day? Also how do you know the devices need new batteries?

I use them for about 4 hours a day, about 1 conference call every other day. I know they need new batteries because from full charge, they won't get through a single hour-long conference call anymore without blasting the low battery warning. I used to be able to eek out about 2 1-hour conference calls before getting the warning.

Surprised you can wear those things that long. I've found my iPhone or MBP speaker have better noise reduction than the AirPods, and they're not comfortable to have in for multiple hours at a time.

When I need to do this - I only wear one AirPods, and keep the other charged in the case. Mic quality seems improved also with only 1 AirPods.

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Can we talk about how smooth and beautiful the website is? I know, it's Apple and their websites are always the same, but there's always a tiny increment. This time it's the woman adjusting the ANC by holding her Airpods. The way she fades in and the scroll controls her every movement and then fades out is just so smooth.

It made it difficult for me to read the content, and lagged/stuttered on my Macbook Pro. Not to mention taking up a whole screen for a single marketing sentence is obnoxious.

As someone who buys a lot of "pro" labeled audio gear, the only thing I care about is a bullet point list of specs. I've seen enough snake oil to ignore marketing materials for consumer audio products. But I get why Apple doesn't do that off the bat, because they're not trying to sell these to people like me.

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People are already spending that much on the power beats pro, sennheiser momentum true wireless, and sony wf-1000xm3. It's only $50 more than the AirPods with wireless charging case. These would be a day one purchase for me if I didn't already have the over-the-ear Sony WH-1000xm3 headphones for 90% of my listening and a recently purchased set of AirPods for the other 10%.

How do you like the WH-1000xm3’s? I think they’re a really dumb pair of headphones considering the fact that they automatically connect to either my phone or laptop at random and I have to reconnect them by holding the power button for 5 seconds every time to switch between laptop and phone. Despite this, the sound quality is pretty good... but it still doesn’t justify how relatively dumb these pair of headphones are…

What makes me mad about the Sony headphones: they can’t be used as a microphone when connected via a cable.

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I really struggled to take the plunge on the original AirPods and it has been one of my top 10 purchases ever in my life without a doubt. I stood there holding the little $200 box in my hand and really danced back and forth in my mind about whether or not they would really be necessary. If they broke, I would go buy a new pair immediately. For what they are, the sound is amazing. I can't really do a phone call anymor…

If the noise cancelling and sound quality on these is great, I may actually go from the Sony cans to these, mainly due to Bluetooth pairing woes. With the Sony headphones, if I want to switch from iPhone to Macbook I have to do the dance of Bluetooth repairing. Switch off BT on iPhone -> connect headphones to Mac, switch iPhone BT back on. The sound would have to be in the same ballpark though, which is hardly a guar…

I have the same issue with my Sony's. Definitely a pain in the ass, especially when my mac is folded up and sleeping in my backpack and the headphones still connect to it.
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