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Re: Ban Facial Recognition at Festivals

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post #86

What is the original intent of the use of facial recognition at festivals? Is it drug trafficking tracking? Terrorism tracking? Satisfaction tracking?

It starts off with obvious and socially acceptable uses of technology, such as stopping terrorism. Over time, though, the application of technology like this will be used to target people for lesser offenses. Unpaid parking tickets, for example.

To whit, in China it is now used to issue jay-walking tickets.

Re: Ban Facial Recognition at Festivals

#92
post #4

Why are most of the tweets mentioning deportation? Surveillance aside, since when has it been a human right to attend a festival in a country you are not allowed to reside in?

Since when was it a human right to tell other people where they're allowed to live?

Since property, both private and public, is a fundamental human right. Just as you have a right to privacy of your home, a country's citizens have the same right to their country.

Re: Ban Facial Recognition at Festivals

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post #80
post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Known terrorists shouldn’t be free in the first place, least of all in an Western country. And if they are free I suppose that are actively on the run (hence the “known” part) so I don’t think they’re in the mood for a concert or a Ligue 1 match. As such whenever the powers that be use the terrorists line for stuff like this I call them bullshitters, because that’s what they are.

Terrorists attend these events to, you know, commit acts of terrorism, not enjoy the music.

When such people is in 100m range from event - nothing can be done

Police forces _has_ to act before such happens

This is like metal detectors in airports - useless

Coz if someone want to do harm - they can do this on parking, in line or in any areas near where people are crowded

And even more There is no evidence that facial recognition lower terrorists attack possibility

Re: Ban Facial Recognition at Festivals

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I want to be surveilled everywhere I go, because I trust corporations and the government to safeguard that information and never abuse it. After all, corporations and governments have never acted against the best interests of the people in the past, so there is no risk in them having a live-updating data set on the locations, activities, companions, and sentiments of every American.

Is that what people think? We are letting this shit run wild on us, and if the future is anything other than a bonafide utopia (spoilers: it's not going to be that), people are going to pay for our present naivete.

Re: Ban Facial Recognition at Festivals

#95
post #4

Why are most of the tweets mentioning deportation? Surveillance aside, since when has it been a human right to attend a festival in a country you are not allowed to reside in?

Because the computer might say you are someone else. Do not underestimate the power of "computer said so"

We’ve had judicial procedures to challenge the results of technological processes for nearly a century (radar guns for speeding violations, for example). It’s not a foregone conclusion that the computer is always right.

Re: Ban Facial Recognition at Festivals

#96
post #68

I’ve always used the number of Spanish speaking radio stations on the dial as a litmus test for how much illegal immigration exists in my city. First generation and second generation don’t typically listen to to the Spanish speaking stations, so the demand is being driven by the initial immigrants, the majority of whom are illegal (in my city). No matter how much I hear about illegal immigration being cracked down up…

You’re dismissing the possibility that the first-generation immigrants who listen to these radio stations were admitted legally.

I used the word “majority”, which doesn’t precluded that “some” are here legally.

If I had to quantify my suspicion of Spanish radio listeners in my city, I’d say that 90% are likely illegal immigrants.

If I was in Florida, I’d say that 10% are likely illegal immigrants.

Don’t interpret my observation of illegal immigration existing as condemnation of a group of people who migrated across vast distances and dangerous deserts in order to work hard manual labor jobs in order to better their families. If I were in their shoes, I’d do the same. But, that doesn’t make it any less illegal.

Re: Ban Facial Recognition at Festivals

#97

The ban is not going to happen. It's an issue of public safety and venue liability. FR use at video game conferences is a must, because every one has a series of morons threatening the venue, the conference, and the host. It is very difficult today to host any type of public event without multiple individuals taking their displeasure to extreme levels and making threats they might carry out. For such reasons, FR is b…

Yes the ban will happen. You work for the damn FR industry, get out of here with your fear tactics.

I don’t read that post as using fear tactics nor for that matter do I even read it as supportive of FR. I read it it as simply an explanation for why venues will choose to use FR.

One can both support the ban and doubt its success.

Re: Ban Facial Recognition at Festivals

#98
post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I didn't see anything in OP's comment about whistleblowers, pirating or HK.

Saying that people should go to prison because they happen to illegally be in a country that’s not theirs is in the same realm of bad things as what the mainland Chinese are trying to do now in HK.

Illegal immigrants are not sent to prison unless they committed additional crimes, usually they are deported and sent back to their respective countries.

Re: Ban Facial Recognition at Festivals

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Since when was it a human right to tell other people where they're allowed to live?

Good question. I’ll be moving in to your house this evening, thanks.

The illegal immigrants aren't staying in your home, they're staying with whomever they're paying rent to. What right do you have to tell him who he can rent to?
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