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Re: Ban Facial Recognition at Festivals

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Post by bredren »

dbg31415 wrote: post #3

Burning Man wants to use facial recognition? Uh... guess it's time we all got gas masks.

I can’t see how the org would choose to use facial recognition.

I can see how they would not explicitly ban participants from including it in art. New rules can take a while to be formed and it is only if there is a real need.

I can also see LE using it or requiring its use—but that could happen at any of these events.

This is sort of an alarmist site / concept given only five out of the large list “might” use it.

Re: Ban Facial Recognition at Festivals

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Post by pcdoodle »

bsenftner wrote: post #8

The ban is not going to happen. It's an issue of public safety and venue liability. FR use at video game conferences is a must, because every one has a series of morons threatening the venue, the conference, and the host. It is very difficult today to host any type of public event without multiple individuals taking their displeasure to extreme levels and making threats they might carry out. For such reasons, FR is b…

Yes the ban will happen. You work for the damn FR industry, get out of here with your fear tactics.

Re: Ban Facial Recognition at Festivals

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Post by angry_octet »

anilakar wrote: post #11
empath75 wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Someone always makes this comment every time illegal immigration is mentioned as if the law is the final word on what is just. And then they’ll complain about someone going to prison for being a whistleblower or pirating movies or cheer on the protestors in Hong Kong.

Where I live, work permits are so easy (or automatic through the virtue of being in Schengen area) to get that illegal immigration basically does not exist, so the whole idea is vague at best to me.

If you are in Europe, how can you not be aware of undocumented refugees from North Africa and Syria? What you are saying is completely delusional.

Re: Ban Facial Recognition at Festivals

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Post by logicchains »

jstanley wrote: post #9
anilakar wrote: post #4

Why are most of the tweets mentioning deportation? Surveillance aside, since when has it been a human right to attend a festival in a country you are not allowed to reside in?

It should be a human right to exist at a public place/event anywhere on Earth, regardless of which country you were born in.

It's insane that people will go on about how important it is to treat people equally regardless of their race, gender, skin colour or sexuality, but also argue it's perfectly fine and moral to discriminate based on place of birth. Because people clearly have a lot more control over where they're born than they do over their skin color or gender..

Re: Ban Facial Recognition at Festivals

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Post by empath75 »

anilakar wrote: post #11
empath75 wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Someone always makes this comment every time illegal immigration is mentioned as if the law is the final word on what is just. And then they’ll complain about someone going to prison for being a whistleblower or pirating movies or cheer on the protestors in Hong Kong.

Where I live, work permits are so easy (or automatic through the virtue of being in Schengen area) to get that illegal immigration basically does not exist, so the whole idea is vague at best to me.

That is not the case in the us, and moreover there are people who have lived in the us since they were babies or small children, and have families and careers or even served in the military who are still at risk of deportation to country they don’t remember and where they don’t even speak the language well or at all.

Re: Ban Facial Recognition at Festivals

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Post by matz1 »

Trying to ban FR seems to be a solving the privacy problem in the wrong way. Instead of banning FR, what should be fixed is the misidentification problem or the issue that come out when the FR become public.

Re: Ban Facial Recognition at Festivals

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Post by angry_octet »

sneak wrote: post #20
anilakar wrote: post #4

Why are most of the tweets mentioning deportation? Surveillance aside, since when has it been a human right to attend a festival in a country you are not allowed to reside in?

The right to go about your business without your location being tracked automatically and in bulk is recognized regardless of one’s immigration status.

Recognized by whom?

Re: Ban Facial Recognition at Festivals

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Post by logicchains »

anilakar wrote: post #4

Why are most of the tweets mentioning deportation? Surveillance aside, since when has it been a human right to attend a festival in a country you are not allowed to reside in?

Since when was it a human right to tell other people where they're allowed to live?

Re: Ban Facial Recognition at Festivals

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Post by vorpalhex »

jstanley wrote: post #9
anilakar wrote: post #4

Why are most of the tweets mentioning deportation? Surveillance aside, since when has it been a human right to attend a festival in a country you are not allowed to reside in?

It should be a human right to exist at a public place/event anywhere on Earth, regardless of which country you were born in.

Sure.. as long as you pay your back taxes.
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