Yet it's common for lesbian women to be friends with ex-partners.
Men View Their Ex-Partners More Favorably Than Women Do: Study
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#242Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is a perfect example of an attempt at Kafkatrapping, specifically I'd say it is a "model S" Kafkatrap: http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=2122 > Skepticism about any particular anecdotal account of {sin,racism,sexism,homophobia,oppression,…}, or any attempt to deny that the particular anecdote implies a systemic problem in which you are one of the guilty parties, is itself sufficient to establish your guilt.
Your comment just sent me down a rabbit-hole learning about Kafkatrapping. Really interesting to see a new term coined out of thin air that encapsulates so much meaning. It's pretty crazy how hard it is to defend against, I feel like viable defenses are still evolving.
You should be a little careful about using this term; it has a pronounced ideological origin you might not want to affiliate with (or maybe you would, who knows). Raymond did not invent the notion of a circular or illogical argument.
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#243Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's sociology and psychology research, not biology. Biological explanation in this article is speculation not backed by the study.
Brains are biological constructs.
And biology is chemical constructs, yet we don't call them chemical genders.
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#244That's because cis men in general are trash. Since 90% of the audience here is cis male this comment will be downvoted into limbo, thus confirming the statement.
This is a perfect example of an attempt at Kafkatrapping, specifically I'd say it is a "model S" Kafkatrap: http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=2122 > Skepticism about any particular anecdotal account of {sin,racism,sexism,homophobia,oppression,…}, or any attempt to deny that the particular anecdote implies a systemic problem in which you are one of the guilty parties, is itself sufficient to establish your guilt.
"All birds have wings. Airplanes have wings. Therefore, airplanes are birds". Does this really need its own term, or is Raymond's coinage just a sneaky way of injecting an ideological vantage point into a conversation?
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#245Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why?
From a sociological standpoint: Because you're doing bad social science. When you're talking about values/cultures, those things are inherently rooted in a culture. Saying "all men X" is almost entirely useless because there's almost always going to be a culture or subculture that makes it "most men" instead. This specific article was based off a study conducted in Austria with mean ages of men/women involved in thei…
Thanks for explaining in more detail. This is not my area of expertise at all. Would it not be possible to draw strong conclusions about “men’s” behavior broadly in the same way we do for male Chimpanzees for example?
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#246I'd put it down to privilege. Women in traditional relationships are expected to perform more emotional labor over the course of the relationship and so the experience of being in a relationship is generally better for men, so they'll have more positive feelings afterward.
Wikipedia explains emotional labor is a term reserved for the effort involved in managing one's own emotions for a job.
You might be referring to emotional work which is related notion involving effort put in to manage one's emotions in a relationship.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emotion_work
Your theory would also predict that men would desire and pursue relationships more than women, and I'm not entirely sure that's true.
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#247So women blame others and men take responsibility?
Was it something I said?
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Just a few remarks, notwithstanding your/my opinions. Physics has not "one of the better reproducibility rates" but 100%; per the Scientific Method any valid theory must: - be reproducible (verifiable empirically) - have predictive power - not negate existing theories This constitutes 'acceptable proof'. It yields a 'compound effect' to theoretical research: for instance, Newton's Laws were never wrong, just narrower…
> Physics has not "one of the better reproducibility rates" but 100% I'd ask if you ever taken a good look at cosmology, but your username would suggest that you have. Which makes it all the more surprising to me that you make a claim like this.
I suppose it's too late to ask for a deeper explanation. I must admit I'm puzzled on this one; these are principles that were taught to me very early on and never questioned since. I can remember by physics teacher along the lines of "physics is exact, if your experiment fails it's not the theory that's wrong, it's you!" and students were expected to make the experiment work for a good grade. If education grades can be subornated to the certainty that carefully designed experimental protocols should work within margins of error, this goes to show how confident we are that valid theory is valid... I don't know.
As for the scientific theory it was taught to me even in History class, it's just a set of principles.
Astrophysics, as far as I know, do not contradict existing theory? However it very much shows the limits thereof — but what's beyond this limit is not part of our undertanding of physics, of our theory, yet or ever. Maybe you can solve gravitation at the quantum level, maybe not, either way our accepted current theory work and keep being confirmed afaik.
Genuinely curious to know why the downvotes to GP.
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#249Earlier quoted context omitted.
Just a few remarks, notwithstanding your/my opinions. Physics has not "one of the better reproducibility rates" but 100%; per the Scientific Method any valid theory must: - be reproducible (verifiable empirically) - have predictive power - not negate existing theories This constitutes 'acceptable proof'. It yields a 'compound effect' to theoretical research: for instance, Newton's Laws were never wrong, just narrower…
I think you might have misunderstood? Academic physics publications do not have perfect reproduction rates. Especially theoretical physics. The criteria for a valid theory doesn’t prevent human mistakes. Everything you said applies to social sciences too. Per the scientific method any valid theory must be reproducible and predictive. It’s an unfortunate fact of life that the academic research and publication process…
Perhaps you can help shed some light on my apparent misunderstanding? See this other comment: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21365183
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#250Earlier quoted context omitted.
Gender has until recently been a synonym for sex. If you are referring to gender identity, then use that term.
I don't know if I would say recently, this distinction started becoming used in the early 60s which was almost 60 years ago.
Not where I grew up. UK, so we know the language fairly well.