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It's not the bugs that are an issue with 10. It's the mountains of nagware, spyware and advertisements built in to it.
I use 10 daily and see no ads. Where does windows 10 show ads?
Bill Gates on Windows Usability (2003)
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Re: Bill Gates on Windows Usability (2003)
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You reboot your server every week? Whatever for?
Don't some updates set a "reboot required" flag?
Re: Bill Gates on Windows Usability (2003)
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As far as I know, Linux doesn't support library hotswapping any more than Windows does, so if you have a security update in libc for example, you can either manually restart all programs which use it, or reboot the system. Unless you do one of these, you don't have the security patch up and running, right?
Yes it does but differently: the library is placed on disk and the symlink pointing to the new version is updates. Services depending on this library are restarted. Ssh handles this exceptionally well in that it keeps running sessions open and new sessions use the new library. There is alsof no risk of having locks on files during installation: Unix keeps a gidsen copy of a file until the last process closes it. All…
The way I see it, Linux does give you much more flexibility in how to deal with these restarts; and the ability to overwrite libraries on disk guarantees you don't get into the horrible Windows update-restart-update-restart cycles: you only ever require one restart at most.
However, there are also risks. For one, if you don't restart long-running processes which use updated shared libraries your system may be at risk; also, even if the update was not a vulnerability fix, it is technically possible for processes that communicate through a shared library to misbehave if they have different versions (one using the old library with an old data-structure for example).
This probably doesn't happen so much in Linux, where IPC is commonly done through text streams, but may be a much bigger problem on Windows if you update some COM library for example, reducing the usefullness of no-restart updates.
Re: Bill Gates on Windows Usability (2003)
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I figured out very early on Windows (this was the days of 3.x) that the Alt key could activate the menu and then let you browse the items with the cursor keys, and the underlined letters (which idiotically have been hidden by default more recently) work in combination with Alt to activate UI elements. I couldn't figure out how to do the equivalent in Mac OS. You had to inspect each menu first with the mouse (and hold…
CMD O for open, S for save P for print seem fairly intuitive to me. For max fun though, hold down opt/alt while you have a menu displayed and watch the options change.
The majority of Windows applications I've used also follow that (using Ctrl instead), because the unmodified keys will do something else (like inserting the pressed letter, in a word processor/text editor); the difference with Finder/Explorer is that browsing through the filesystem is the primary purpose, and arrows/Enter/Backspace to move selection/select/go back are far more convenient and easy to use than arrows/Cmd+O/Cmd+[.
I wonder if there is almost some sort of vi/emacs divide here.
Re: Bill Gates on Windows Usability (2003)
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...and Macs being expensive and Linux Desktop being an incoherent mess. Literally couldn't even beat Windows by giving the latter away.
I think that's being very unfair. Linux is not the same "incoherent mess" it was 10-20 years ago. There are some OEM's that ship with linux pre-installed, some of them are: - Dell - System76 - Purism > Literally couldn't even beat Windows by giving the latter away. Beat in what sense? That's merely your opinion and doesn't necessarily reflect reality. Especially when you don't support it with any facts. Fact is that…
Yes, and it still sucks in a lot of the same ways it always has, and a few new ones (bloat, more incomprehensibly tangled base system than ever before...). Just yesterday I watched PCManFM, when told to copy a directory from an SMB share, copy the folder but none of its contents. This kind of basic functionality being completely overlooked is common, because there are about 100 implementations of anything and about 250 different distros combining those things in differently broken ways.
Oh, I hear you say, you shouldn't use those obscure distros, but a more polished one like Ubuntu. Only it was Ubuntu 19.04 with the latest updates.
This is without even getting into absolutely retarded design decisions like .desktop files.
Re: Bill Gates on Windows Usability (2003)
#2262003 was the pinnacle of MS Office for me. The introduction of the ‘Ribbon of Confusion’ in 2007 around the time of the adoption of 16:9 screens was appalling. The ribbon was welded to the top of the screen leaving a letterbox sized area for your documents. It was like using a toolbar encrusted IE. This all happened when Adobe were demonstrating excellent UI design in their pro apps with pallets that could be docked…
And it was a completely different UI, forcing all the users to relearn most of the functionality. I suspect that such a user-hostile change was done in order to achieve a patentable UI, something that LibreOffice and others would not be able to copy.
It isn't stopping Libre though... https://www.reallinuxuser.com/how-to-enable-the-tabbed-ribbo...
Re: Bill Gates on Windows Usability (2003)
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I'm not sure if you're serious, but > Just drag/drop a PDF to a printer spool window, and it will print; this is just the most obtuse way of doing things. > usually you just have to drag it to the Applications folder; to uninstall it, simply drag it to the trash; So does this, and unreliable as you noted - i.e. usually . But, ugggh... dragging things to other things to do things though? There's a reason why certain l…
I figured out very early on Windows (this was the days of 3.x) that the Alt key could activate the menu and then let you browse the items with the cursor keys, and the underlined letters (which idiotically have been hidden by default more recently) work in combination with Alt to activate UI elements. I couldn't figure out how to do the equivalent in Mac OS. You had to inspect each menu first with the mouse (and hold…
I can still see the underlined letters. Are you on Windows 10?
Re: Bill Gates on Windows Usability (2003)
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You’d have a great point if you only mentioned VB6 and left out AIM and that word processor that spat out binary files.
I still have a portable version of Word 2003 on a flash stick, because it still works better. The most incomprehensible thing to me is how much worse all the IM software I have to use today is.
Re: Bill Gates on Windows Usability (2003)
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Windows codename Neptune: https://microsoft.fandom.com/wiki/Microsoft_Neptune It’s interesting to see twenty year old experiments with flat UI designs considering how dominant that style is today with Android 5, iOS 7, Windows 8, etc.
These apps looks like they are made in IE6-era Electron..
Re: Bill Gates on Windows Usability (2003)
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I think that's being very unfair. Linux is not the same "incoherent mess" it was 10-20 years ago. There are some OEM's that ship with linux pre-installed, some of them are: - Dell - System76 - Purism > Literally couldn't even beat Windows by giving the latter away. Beat in what sense? That's merely your opinion and doesn't necessarily reflect reality. Especially when you don't support it with any facts. Fact is that…
> Fact is that the linux story and experience has improved dramatically over the past 10 years. Yes, and it still sucks in a lot of the same ways it always has, and a few new ones (bloat, more incomprehensibly tangled base system than ever before...). Just yesterday I watched PCManFM, when told to copy a directory from an SMB share, copy the folder but none of its contents. This kind of basic functionality being comp…
Ubuntu doesn't even come with PCManFM, it comes with nautilus as the file manager. Are you quite sure you used Ubuntu? Here's a video showing you how to mount an SMB share, it is quiet straightforward: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPnVzyMBlAI
No operating system is fool proof. For vast number of users that don't have specific OS specific software requirements, Linux is a very viable alternative.
Here's someone's mom trying out and using linux: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgGbZfR6Vec
I got many beginners to swap over to linux and they have been loving it. My mom and my grandmother both use linux.