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Pointing to a specific claim that was not made as if it was. Anyone can find something to point to that is false. It's an effective way to avoid specific things that were brought up.
Since you've brought up nothing but a couple of links to emails with the word "pizza" in them somewhere and a couple of links to your own posts in the past (without any context to explain why those posts are relevant to the topic), I think I've avoided nothing specific you've claimed because you've claimed nothing specific. Does it even count as "JAQing off [ https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Just_asking_questions]" if o…
Edward Snowden on The Joe Rogan Experience [video]
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#592Earlier quoted context omitted.
Since you've brought up nothing but a couple of links to emails with the word "pizza" in them somewhere and a couple of links to your own posts in the past (without any context to explain why those posts are relevant to the topic), I think I've avoided nothing specific you've claimed because you've claimed nothing specific. Does it even count as "JAQing off [ https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Just_asking_questions]" if o…
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17181228
My question stands unanswered and further communication in this topic is likely fruitless.
jakeogh, I wish I could say I wished you the best, but I'm not a fan of conspiracy theorists and I'm not a fan of this game you're playing trying to convince people that anyone still believes in Pizzagate. Reality is already complex enough as it is.
May the Triluminati treat you gently for doing their bidding, whether or not you know you are.
Re: Edward Snowden on The Joe Rogan Experience [video]
#593Snowden mentioned something about Android and iOS refusing to implement his idea about cutting network access to specific apps. He said they claim it's a security risk. What is the security risk and where can I see the discussion about this feature?
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https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17181228
My question stands unanswered and further communication in this topic is likely fruitless. jakeogh, I wish I could say I wished you the best, but I'm not a fan of conspiracy theorists and I'm not a fan of this game you're playing trying to convince people that anyone still believes in Pizzagate. Reality is already complex enough as it is. May the Triluminati treat you gently for doing their bidding, whether or not yo…
Re: Edward Snowden on The Joe Rogan Experience [video]
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You're completely misrepresenting this. He didn't give them any documents, he didn't tell them all the computers, he only _showed_ them a sample of them. They were also only civilian computers. I think civilians all over the world had a right to know that they were being spied on by the U.S. government. What difference does it make if a person is a U.S. citizen or a Hong Kong citizen? Human rights are human rights.
Every other government, including the Chinese, are spying on US civilians as well. And in this case, it seems like the Chinese civilians were the kinds of civilians any other country would be spying on as well. I haven't seen a convincing argument for Snowden or others as to why he took documents unrelated to domestic spying. If he had only whistleblew the domestic stuff, I bet a lot more politicians would be open to…
If a Russian citizen published documents proving that the Russian government was extensively spying on Americans, I doubt you would condemn the leaker. I wouldn't.
Re: Edward Snowden on The Joe Rogan Experience [video]
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Every other government, including the Chinese, are spying on US civilians as well. And in this case, it seems like the Chinese civilians were the kinds of civilians any other country would be spying on as well. I haven't seen a convincing argument for Snowden or others as to why he took documents unrelated to domestic spying. If he had only whistleblew the domestic stuff, I bet a lot more politicians would be open to…
If a Russian citizen published documents proving that the Russian government was extensively spying on Americans, I doubt you would condemn the leaker. I wouldn't.
If I were Russian, I probably would. As an American, I'd be indifferent to both the leaker and the spying activity.
Re: Edward Snowden on The Joe Rogan Experience [video]
#597Snowden is really clever with these interviews. Right away in the interview he establishes his concerns about the government, then briefly mentions the government smear campaign against him without hanging on the point too much. He calmly explains himself in an articulate way, establishing himself as perfectly sane. Then he reaches out to connect and empathize with his interviewer: > When I hear you just speak, I go…
Maybe he's getting some coaching from people where he lives now as he goes on his media tour before the next American election?
It is only sensible to be skeptical when the attention he's garnered could be useful to some
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The intelligence agencies have proven to be vindictive, and also a back-channel arm for straight up partisan politics. It seems like it goes unnoticed when the outcome is something that aligns with a party's goals. I just can't tell if it's fallible people in positions of power, or a real concerted effort. I think a lot of our problems stem from the undermining of our system of checks and balances, and whatever is up…
Examples of partisan politics by IC?
Peter Strzok, Lisa Page?
Re: Edward Snowden on The Joe Rogan Experience [video]
#599The success of Joe Rogan is fascinating and encouraging. For a long time there was a view that attention spans were diminishing. Facebook and Tik Tok reduced content to the smallest possible dosage. But look at this. This is one of the world's most popular podcasts and it's nearly three hours long. You see it too in TV: what is a Netflix series but a 13 hour movie? I see a definite trend towards long form content rig…
Exactly the reason I watch most Joe Rogan content as "highlight clips" on YouTube.
I don't have time for most of this drawn out content.
(I did listen to the entire Joe Rogan - Snowden podcast but that was a first)
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Yes they must feel like fools, believing that multiple national politicians would associate with an organized pedophilia ring, for instance even flying on a private plane that had been nicknamed "The Lolita Express".
I mean, they should probably feel like fools believing there was child sex trafficking going on in the basement of a building that has no basement, even if some other conspiracies turn out to be real. It's a textbook case of mob mentality that so many people believed the lies and nobody did even basic legwork. (And let's note: it's not like 4chan broke open Epstein's crimes. Old fashioned FBI legwork did. And the guy…
Old fashioned FBI legwork...
You're wrong about... everything.
FBI washed their hands of this when the rest of DoJ did, in 2008. Two things caused national attention to return to Epstein: Alexander Acosta's nomination to Labor, and Julie K. Brown at the Miami Herald refusing to forget about Epstein's victims even after the rest of the media had. FBI had fuck-all to do with any of this; they don't like to investigate people who can afford to hire lawyers.